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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by amabeetle
A thought to consider is that you are possibly in (Denver) at the mile high elevation and Fuel Moto dynos and provides maps with their elevation. I purchased PCV with auto tune and i am at 3600 ft elevation, i had lots of corrections in the map with auto tune and it runs great now. Elevation does have an effect on tune.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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Just curious, could an excessively lean condition do the same?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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Actually sounds like its rich to me, I'd try hooking up wide band O2 sensors or take it to a local tuner who can do it with in a dyno environment.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 11:36 PM
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One more vote for a slipping clutch.

And for the suggestion about altitude, fuel injection isn't like carbs. With carburetors, engines would run better with different jetting. But FI does The only difference altitude makes is there is less power because there is less oxygen.

I ride all over the Rockies and the eastern plains, ranging in altitude from about 900 ft (eastern Kansas) to almost 12,000 ft. (Loveland Pass) Never had an issue with any of my bikes, just had to mentally adjust for longer passing times when riding at high altitudes.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by amabeetle
Actually sounds like its rich to me, I'd try hooking up wide band O2 sensors or take it to a local tuner who can do it with in a dyno environment.
If it was that rich, it should backfire like crazy and spit flames.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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I mentioned that it may be rich because I have a power commander 5 from fuel moto map that did exactly the same thing to me and I'm at 3600 ft. My auto tune after installed and it made leaning changes to the map fixed the problem. It was 15-40 % throttle position on mine that needed leaning.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by amabeetle
A thought to consider is that you are possibly in (Denver) at the mile high elevation and Fuel Moto dynos and provides maps with their elevation. I purchased PCV with auto tune and i am at 3600 ft elevation, i had lots of corrections in the map with auto tune and it runs great now. Elevation does have an effect on tune.
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It shouldn't make any or much difference, as the MAP and intake-temp sensors are designed to make adjustments for temperature and altitude. I can monitor Lambda on my Power Vision display unit and I've seen little deviation with changes in air temp or altitude. I'm running open-loop similar to you guys with PCV's, so there is no intervention from O2 sensors in either case.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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Iclick, do you remember your early posts about PCV and fuel Moto maps and how they are pretty much spot on? Then when you installed auto tune and went into some elevation you had hesitation and surging? Your report showed that the TP 15-40 had huge negative corrections at elevation with AT. I experienced the same thing and thought the OP described a similar condition??? I guess I missed the point, I do have auto tune corrections to my maps at elevation that fixed my hesitation then surging noticed especially when entering an on-ramp to freeway or roll-on passing.
If you could please clarify the difference for me so I can figure it out too, thanks much,
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The OP stated; I would twist the throttle, then the bike would rev pretty high, take a sec or so to kind of kick in to actually speed up. Almost like it it was searching for the power band or something.

Sounds like when he hammers it the bike will rev a moment before the clutch actually engages.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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That's what mine was doing...
 
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