EPA/ Ethanol
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From: Annemasse (border of Geneva-Switzerland) facing Mt-Blanc.
P.Q huh, interesting, best food in north America, and most fashionable chicks by far. I rode the area where you are at right now 2 years ago, nice riding there, rivals the Yukon and BC areas. Will be over that way again this summer. Back to ethanol, we need to come up with a workable soultion, boats, MC's, and small engine technology is not there for this 10 or 15% blend yet. Cars can handle better but still reduced MPG.
A scientist explained to me that Methanol can be burnt directly in a gasoline engine, but this is strictly forbidden because we wouldn't pay taxes; who to believe?
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From: SoCal
I often use E10 sold on our motorways, but I refuel with E0 before storing the bike for a few weeks to avoid water capture by the tank walls. We have the same problem with diesel fuel, not enough BTU in the alternative fuels and our fuel system seals and hoses are not made of the proper fluoro-polymers. I often bought 'Viton' seals and hoses but I would have to take everything apart beforehand. Is it really worth the hassle?
A scientist explained to me that Methanol can be burnt directly in a gasoline engine, but this is strictly forbidden because we wouldn't pay taxes; who to believe?
A scientist explained to me that Methanol can be burnt directly in a gasoline engine, but this is strictly forbidden because we wouldn't pay taxes; who to believe?
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Corngas sucks. All my small engines have starting problems now. Corngas absorbs so much moisture my tractor needs starting fluid to start IF I am lucky. The E10 industrial complex is in bed with congress. and the relations must be good cause you gonna get E15 up the pipe next.
I sleep well knowing my equipment won't work and my taxes subsidise my getting less MPG in my car, but my government knows whats best for me. I can't even Buy REAL gas anymore (all stations that used to sell around me it can't get it anymore).
See you pay twice...taxes to fund corngas...and less MPG so you can buy more of it.
and btw, old #2 home heating oil is gone july 1, all gonna be ULSD. OH boy, my truck gets less MPG on this too and instead of it costing a nickel a gal like the epa said to get rid of sulpher....diesel is about .30 a gallon more than premium gas,,,,,,,,used to .10 a gallon cheaper than regular gas.
bah...bah...bah.........sheep we are............led by the rich............how come we have no real wokin people at the top?
But then again thats life........history tells us so
I sleep well knowing my equipment won't work and my taxes subsidise my getting less MPG in my car, but my government knows whats best for me. I can't even Buy REAL gas anymore (all stations that used to sell around me it can't get it anymore).
See you pay twice...taxes to fund corngas...and less MPG so you can buy more of it.
and btw, old #2 home heating oil is gone july 1, all gonna be ULSD. OH boy, my truck gets less MPG on this too and instead of it costing a nickel a gal like the epa said to get rid of sulpher....diesel is about .30 a gallon more than premium gas,,,,,,,,used to .10 a gallon cheaper than regular gas.
bah...bah...bah.........sheep we are............led by the rich............how come we have no real wokin people at the top?
But then again thats life........history tells us so
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From: Mass
...anybody using E-10 gas, should be using this also...ESPECIALLY boaters...
http://mystarbrite.com/startron//con...3/123/lang,en/
..meant to say anybody storing E-10 for an extended period of time...boaters should put it in the gas at every fill up, but bikes only need it if stored a few months or longer..
http://mystarbrite.com/startron//con...3/123/lang,en/
..meant to say anybody storing E-10 for an extended period of time...boaters should put it in the gas at every fill up, but bikes only need it if stored a few months or longer..
Last edited by jmacdonald5; Feb 6, 2012 at 07:53 PM.
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From: Charlotte, N.C.
This issue can be resolved by Decreasing you A/F ratio. E15 would mean you need to burn slightly more volume of fuel to volume of air so 14.anything:1 AFR is out of the question. 13.5:1 would be a save place to start this would solve the overheating issue. As far as the effects that Ethanol has on rubber that's another issue as it breaks this material down prematurely. So maybe we all can get grants from the government to update to all Viton hoses and o-rings. And the moisture issue can be resolved by additives or just riding you bike often.
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