General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

E-15 ethanol on its way!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 03:45 PM
  #1  
cbrenthus's Avatar
cbrenthus
Thread Starter
|
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,351
Likes: 1,936
From: Formerly Tampa Bay, FL, Currently Western PA
Default E-15 ethanol on its way!

Here is an e-mail I received. Ethanol is an even bigger problem in boats than other vehicles, so if you want to know what's going on with it, pay attention to boaters and their sites.



September 27, 2010
Dear BoatU.S. Member,
We need your help. If you believe in "science first," now is the time to urge President Obama to require the federal EPA to understand the effects of higher blends of ethanol before allowing it into our country's gasoline supply.
Time is critical. Last year, a record number of boaters asked EPA to test marine engines before allowing up to 15% (E15) ethanol in gasoline. This testing has not been completed. Now, in late September or early October, EPA is getting ready to announce their decision. We expect they will allow E15 for some engines and not others. This will create different fuels with different availability, prices, and a lot of consumer confusion.
BoatU.S. appreciates and embraces the need to diversify our country's fuel and energy sources. However, we are concerned that EPA may put the "cart before the horse" by granting increased ethanol before we know what it will do in our marine engines. Many boaters, having suffered through the last ethanol transition, agree that we should learn from this recent history, and completely understand what the new fuel will do before approving its use in boats. It may turn out to be harmless, but what if it's not? Shouldn't we wait for the facts before making the decision?
Please help today. Click here http://www.followthescience.org/take-action/ and let President Obama know your concerns about ethanol and ask him to get the science first, before giving EPA the approval for more ethanol in your gasoline.
Many thanks,
Margaret Podlich
Vice President, BoatU.S. Government Affairs

 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 03:52 PM
  #2  
dickey's Avatar
dickey
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 19,982
Likes: 6,111
From: Florida
Riders Club Member
Default

I recently heard that they are putting off the decision indefinitely until new studies are in concerning this change.
 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 03:57 PM
  #3  
cbrenthus's Avatar
cbrenthus
Thread Starter
|
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,351
Likes: 1,936
From: Formerly Tampa Bay, FL, Currently Western PA
Default

Originally Posted by dickey
I recently heard that they are putting off the decision indefinitely until new studies are in concerning this change.
That's the best news I've heard all day!
 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 04:13 PM
  #4  
cotnballs's Avatar
cotnballs
Road Captain
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 586
Likes: 1
From: Falcon, CO
Default

Our gas in Colorado goes from 10% to 15% in the winter, shows up around 1 Oct and stays until May. Im not sure about fuel at the docks.
 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:05 PM
  #5  
nozzlehead's Avatar
nozzlehead
Advanced
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
From: Russellville, KY.
Default

That stuff plays havic on on my 2 stroke stuff.
 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:22 PM
  #6  
Rockyriver's Avatar
Rockyriver
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,178
Likes: 6
From: N.C.
Default

I have several small 2 stroke motors on lawn equipment and the plastic tanks are dissolving and have leaks because of this crap.
 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:24 PM
  #7  
Tarponrod's Avatar
Tarponrod
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
Default

If you want to see the effects of ethanol, put some E10 gas in a jar then put in a few drops of water and shake, let sit for awhile. The ethanol + water will seperate then put in a steel nail and let sit a couple of days. That's what happens to your fuel pump, injectors or carb parts.
 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:03 PM
  #8  
seniorsuperglideE8's Avatar
seniorsuperglideE8
Supporter
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 15,788
Likes: 5,625
From: along the shore of Mishigami
Supporter
Default

It's a conspirancy from the corn growers in Iowa, they have to unload all that corn in the state to everybody and anybody that can use it. Orville Redenbacher where are you when we need you.

This concerns me as I'm in the boating/marine industry, our plant is constantly looking for improvements in our fuel storage (fuel tanks) and fuel filtration systems.
 

Last edited by seniorsuperglideE8; Oct 4, 2010 at 07:06 PM.
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:00 PM
  #9  
wideglidebob's Avatar
wideglidebob
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,871
Likes: 4
Default

we get it 10% during winter mo. it dosen`t seem to run anyworse
 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:27 PM
  #10  
ElectraLarry's Avatar
ElectraLarry
Tourer
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 332
Likes: 19
From: Oak Grove, MN
Default

I never use ethanol gas in my boat, period. I try not to use it in the bike but sometimes you just don't have a choice, like when you drive though Iowa for instance. The best way to avoid any problems with the stuff is to use it all up then fill with non-ethanol (non-oxoginated, same stuff). Never let it sit on your tank for more than a month, that's when it starts crudding everything up. Don't forget to add Sea-Foam before storage!
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:11 AM.

story-0
6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

Slideshow: From military-inspired singles to scooters and three-wheel utility vehicles, these Harleys took the company far outside its comfort zone.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-02 18:34:10


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-6
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE