Vent away brother.....vent away

 

GB: Every manufacturer goes thru this sort of change/innovation/new product. 'Sales' hammers on Engineering to "give us something/anything to sell as 'new and better' in order to have something to sell. That is why Cessna Aircraft swept back the vertical stabilizer on a perfectly good design; resulting in poorer control features. That is why Beechcraft invented the "V" tail for the Bonanza; resulting in poorer control features. etc. There are many many examples of that sort of change for the Sales Department's benefit and not for the real results benefit of the consumer. ............. BC

 

Venting will cure a humidity problem.

 

Sambo, here's my post from Nov. I think this product is doomed.
https://www.hdforums.com/m_1002934/tm.htm

 

Wow, hdjoe88 that was back in January! I don't know, I just read about it last week and was curious if anyone has one along with their opinion/s.
Grover- I KNOW venting will cure the problem, but IF it's an occuring thing (well, from what I've read in thisHD Forum)I wouldthink HD would remedy it by now. Maybe they have, I don't know.
Fan for the Oil cooler is starting to sound good! Maybe HD can route a tube off of the Fan that wouldgo in back of the gauge/s at the same time! Wait, that might cost another $100. (for the tube, not the Fan). [sm=WTFsgign.gif]
Going on Vacation...have a Merry Xmas Everyone...see ya next year!

sambo42xa
2005 FLHTCI
1988 883
1973 SS350 Sprint (under construction)
1942 XA (under construction)

 

BC has the basic concept down right - "engineering by the marketing department." This was definitely the case in Cessna's "Jet-Sweep Tail." I've flown a lot of Cessnas (almost every post-WWIImodel they made) over the years, and the older "straight tails" definitely fly better. Of course, I learned to fly back in the days that conventional landing gear (taildraggers to all the newer kids) were, truly, conventional, and one rapidly learned to appreciate the rudder and its proper use in commiting aviation, unlike most of the newer airplanes and recently trained pilots. Amongst other types, I've owned 4 Cessna 310sincluding a then-new '75 T-310R, a '69 T-310P, a '60 310D (first year with the swept tail), and currently own a '59 310C. I also owned a '65 320C for a while. Without a doubt, the sweetest flying of them all is myC model, with its Tuna tanks and straight tail (first year of the injected 260 HP engines, last year of the straight tail, also the last year that Cessna did not put in a spring-type rudder-aileron interconnect). That airplane is fast, light, clean and responsive, as well as a bit challenging, a real joy to fly. As to the Bonanza, i respectfully disagree. The V tail (the original design) was actually dreamed up by the aeronautical engineers as a method to reduce drag, and, from an aerodynamic and pilot's point of view, it is an excellent system. I have a lot of time in various models of Bonanzas (35 series), Debonairs (33 series) and the stretched Debonairs (36 series), and, IMHO, the 35s have the best handling characteristics of all. Highly responsive control inputs, marvelous control harmony between all three axes, and the V tail definitely reduces drag, giving higher cruiseand top speeds than the conventional tails of the 33 and 36 series (assuming proper rigging for each airplane). The "Bonanza Boogie" is actually more a result of the flat-bottomed fuselage design coupled with a relatively short lever arm between the CG and the empennage, which is the reason the 36 series doesn't exhibit it very much (properly rigged 33s typically do it, in my experience). If you ever have the opportunity, fly an early 35 (47-48) or an A-35 or B-35, and you'll experience some of the most pleasant controls you've ever flown with, and excellent control response. As the design continued to develop over the years, the planes became heavier (both empty and gross weight), went to larger and larger engines, and other aerodynamic changes were made which slightly degraded the responses, but I find even the latest V-35Bs are a delight to fly. Actually, the application of the conventional empennage to the Bonanza airframe was an idea by Beechcraft's marketing department, to develop the Debonair as a "lower cost" version of the Bonanza with less horsepower and a more plain interior to compete with the less-expensive Piper Comanche, and take sales from that area of the market. The conventional 3-surface tail was adapted to the 33 in order to visually distinguish it from the "top of the line" Bonanza, in part to keep Bonanza owners happy and to more firmly delineate the difference in price and performance levels between the two models. BTW, the "wing" of the boom that the "Boomer" flies duringaerial refueling from a KC-135

 

310: LOL. Yes, I was stretching it a little bit when I tried to reinforce my point with the 'V' tailed Bonanza reference. I too have flown a bunch of different years of 35 Bonanzas and 1 of the 33 Bonanza. The Vs usually had that little box added just under the tail that eliminated the 'Bonanza Wiggle'. I like the V' tail just as much as I do the conventional tail Bonanza, but I still think that "Sales" had a lot to do with the development of the "V" tail.

The firearms industry might be a better example of "Sales" doing a job on "Engineering." i.e. right now the firearms industry is introducing new cartridges about as fast as they can. Surely a .019 inch difference in diameter isn't going to make a .204 Ruger that much better than a .223 Remington? All the proliferation of "short magnums" isn't going to make the older standard magnums obsolete overnight. Those items are just "different" from what is standard and are for "Sales" to have something different to sell. You can't sell to the buying public that you are changing barrel steel to a new steel mix for your barrel manufacturing that is going to add to the accuracy of the average barrel because they can't 'show' it in an ad. You can't sell the buying public a new combination of bullet, powder and primer that is going to make the cartridge more accurate and efficient. 'Sales' will always want some 'new' product that the buying public can be told is 'better'. ............... BC

 

If this system was "needed", it would come equipped from the factory. Save your money and just use a good synthetic oil (Amsoil or Mobile 1 V-Twin)