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Old Mar 29, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Potato_Potato
Curious to know if racing motorcycles are ABS equipped. Race cars?
I cant speak for all race cars... but drag cars have no abs... never seen that set up in a drag car..i built a pro mod & never needed abs...
 
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Old Mar 29, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Potato_Potato
Curious to know if racing motorcycles are ABS equipped. Race cars?
Absolutely not. There may be some lower-level classes somewhere with ABS, but not in any of the higher echelons of racing.
 

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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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Yes in Formula 1 racing.... then they banned them as they were TOO good....
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Moore
i built a pro mod & never needed abs...
That's because you had a parachute.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
Because the ABS is only safer under certain conditions - not all conditions.

There are conditions where ABS is a detriment.

I'll give you this much. ABS is a GREAT safety feature for the vast majority of average Joe's.

But for those who have had some kind of performance driving/riding and/or racing experience, and they were good at it (this is a key point - good at it), they will tend to experience situations where the ABS is a liability moreso than the average Joe.

It's pretty easy to tell who's who by their responses to this debate.
I've had racing experience. Been riding since 67. I can tell you without a doubt abs has saved my bacon. We have blind driveway's here in the mtn's. I had an old man pull out in front of me as I topped the crest of a hill about two years ago. I didn't have an alternate route to take because of no shoulder and oncoming traffic. All I could do was grab all the brake I had and hope for the best. Luckily I wasn't going over the speed limit and was able to stop inches from him. I didn't have room to grab and release to keep the front from locking up. ABS works and works well in most condition's. I wouldn't own another bike without it!!!
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Airborne350G
Yes in Formula 1 racing.... then they banned them as they were TOO good....
ABS was banned in F1 in the early 90's along with traction control, active suspensions and other electronic "driver aids". That is fact.

The following is not fact but rather my opinion. It was not banned because it was "too good". It was banned because it had too big of an equalization factor between drivers. It made lesser drivers better while doing little for the best drivers. Braking skills are one of the biggest differentiators between the best drivers and the "also rans". Add to that, in F1 I'd bet that each team calibrated their ABS differently from week-to-week to suit the driver and the circuit they were racing on. That is a far cry from a basic calibration on a street vehicle in which the calibration is compromised to provide very general operation under a variety of conditions.

Again I'll say this. ABS is a great feature for the average rider under a wide range of conditions, and one who never pushes his/her bike to its limits. If you push your bike to its limits, you will find many situations where the factory calibrated ABS can be downright dangerous.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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This thread really got off the path. BMW dual sport motors are equipped with a disable switch. I guess the owners are wealthy enough to self-insure.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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ABS is not required by Federal law, any more than intermittent wipers. If your ABS fails on its own, you can still legally drive the vehicle. 4x4's auto disable in 4x4 mode. Some sport bikes have a switch, albeit O.E.M. I say disable away if that's what you want. Your liability pays no matter, I talked to my insurance guy.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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Again I'll say this. ABS is a great feature for the average rider under a wide range of conditions, and one who never pushes his/her bike to its limits. If you push your bike to its limits, you will find many situations where the factory calibrated ABS can be downright dangerous.[/quote]

I think Dirty Harry said it best "a mans got to know his limitations....."
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 11:32 PM
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I do not know if this was mntioned or not, I read a lot of the posts but not all. But ABS does not work unless the bike is in a straight and upright position so I am confused as to how this is a danger. I have never raced a bike so I don't know what effect that may have but when going straight I don't understand how they are a liability.
 
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