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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 04:11 PM
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So you just remove the old bleed nipples and replace with the speed bleeders ?
Doesn,t the brake fluid flood out when you remove the old ones ??

Sorry to ask but i couldn,t find that answer snywhere in the thread.

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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 06:26 AM
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Going to order a set of these and the bag and hose, but the hose is back ordered till today it says, but still not available. My simple question is this, how does it release the ball, or what actually opens the "valve"?? I know it is when you loosen it up a 1/4 to 1/2 turn, but what actually happens? Looked at the diagrams and everything I could, but the "GOTTA UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS" inside me just needs to know this.... TIA if ya can set my mind at ease. Great work LC Joe. This is an oldie but a goody...
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hydraulic pressure. the check ball is spring loaded. when you apply the brake, the pressure pushes on the spring allowing fluid to pass. when you are no longer applying pressure, the spring pushes the ball back down, blocking the introduction of air. their website shows this in more detail....
 
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rowle
So you just remove the old bleed nipples and replace with the speed bleeders ?
Doesn,t the brake fluid flood out when you remove the old ones ??

Sorry to ask but i couldn,t find that answer snywhere in the thread.

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A little fluid will seep out when you exchange the bleeders from gravity.No air will enter system.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by skratch
hydraulic pressure. the check ball is spring loaded. when you apply the brake, the pressure pushes on the spring allowing fluid to pass. when you are no longer applying pressure, the spring pushes the ball back down, blocking the introduction of air. their website shows this in more detail....
Thanks scratch, I get that part about how it works after you loosen it up a 1/4 to 1/2 turn, the part I don't get is why does it allow the brake fluid to flow after they are loose and not when they are tight? Hope that makes sense?
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackPearl#1
Thanks scratch, I get that part about how it works after you loosen it up a 1/4 to 1/2 turn, the part I don't get is why does it allow the brake fluid to flow after they are loose and not when they are tight? Hope that makes sense?
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Answered own question. Actually very helpful lady who answered the phone there and took my order explained it the same as a regular bleeder in the fact that when it is seated nothing goes thru either type, this one simple holds back until you get enough pressure and then lets the fluid pass thru and self closes to eliminate the air re-entry. She was very courteous and helpful.
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 08:01 AM
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The write up was a great help. Im almost at the two year mark and need to bleed the brakes.

I have learned this is NECESSARY every two years, as on my last bike, a VSTAR 1300 I lost my rear brake, 2 up with my wife and luggage on the back, coming down a mountain in the Smokys near Pisgah National Forest.
It was quite unsettling. Coming down a mountain, gently applying brakes and using engine braking when the rear petal went all the way down, NO REAR BRAKE with a LONG way to go until I would get to the bottom, narrow road, no place to try to pull off. Then thinking what if the front goes out too? AS I had no idea why this was happening until later.
I feared for the safety of my wife on the back, not for mine.

Anyway, long story short, we made it to the bottom and about 15 minutes later the rear brake started working. Why this happened and does happen is once the brake gets hot, water in the brake fluid vaporizes and causes vapor lock, it was after this incidence I learn that almost every motorcycle requires two year brake fluid changes. It only takes once and I will never forget it and I will always change every two years.

Which leads to this, changing brake fluid is always a PIA but seems like these speed bleeders will actually make it fun.
Now if only speedbleeders would update their site by more then a FEW overdue years to include my 2014 bike I would be thrilled!
I dont understand businesses sometimes, I guess to busy and dont need more? *L*
Yes, I know I can call, yes, I guess I can assume the SB8125L will fit but why have too? Anyway, will order them once I can confirm they are the right ones, but I could have just ordered them if the site was up to date, right now I have to prepare for a weekend ride to Myrtle Beach. )
 

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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by alarmdoug
Which leads to this, changing brake fluid is always a PIA but seems like these speed bleeders will actually make it fun.
If it will get you to do it more often, great. Go for it.

But I can also tell you a speed bleeder works no better than a bit of tubing into a jar. Gravity and viscosity will have the fluid moving one way as you pump the brakes if you do it that way, without any repetitive opening and closing of the bleeder.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
If it will get you to do it more often, great. Go for it.

But I can also tell you a speed bleeder works no better than a bit of tubing into a jar. Gravity and viscosity will have the fluid moving one way as you pump the brakes if you do it that way, without any repetitive opening and closing of the bleeder.
Your post tells me that your not familiar with how SpeedBleeders work...........
 
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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I have been to the site before and I don't see a listing for my 2011 SG with ABS. I am curious why there isn't any bleeders listed for newer bikes.....
 
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hate Work
I have been to the site before and I don't see a listing for my 2011 SG with ABS. I am curious why there isn't any bleeders listed for newer bikes.....
I don't believe the 2011's have different calipers then the 09-10 touring models , the same part number should fit.....or pick up the phone and call them to verify.....
 
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