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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HDV-GLIDE
Your post tells me that your not familiar with how SpeedBleeders work...........
A speed bleeder has a spring loaded one-way check valve and a sealed threaded shank. You unscrew it about 1/2 turn and let the check valve do the work of keeping air from being pulled back into the hydraulic circuit when the brake pedal or lever is released, pulling back the master cylinder piston.

Equally, a length of tubing, running from a regular bleeder down into a container with enough brake fluid to cover the end of the tube will do the same thing owing to fluid viscosity and gravity. When the conventional bleeder is also opened approximately 1/2 turn, fluid can exit vea the port drilled into the bleeder and through the tubing. When the pedal or lever is pressed and the master cylinder piston extended, fluid escapes down the tubing and into the container. When the piston is returned, the viscosity of the fluid greatly restricts its ability to flow backwards up into the caliper or wheel cylinder. As a result, air is also restricted from entering. A small amount may enter around the bleeder threads if the bleeder is greatly unthreaded and if the container being used is placed far below the caliper or wheel cylinders (particularly, 4x4 vehicles with oversized wheels and tires). However, giving gravity but a few seconds to continue pulling the brake fliud out of the master cylinder and down through the bleeder on the caliper or wheel cylinder will vacate the small amount of air that was pulled in around the threads. The use of a clear tube will allow the person performing this task to observe all fluid and air flow.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
A speed bleeder has a spring loaded one-way check valve and a sealed threaded shank. You unscrew it about 1/2 turn and let the check valve do the work of keeping air from being pulled back into the hydraulic circuit when the brake pedal or lever is released, pulling back the master cylinder piston.

Equally, a length of tubing, running from a regular bleeder down into a container with enough brake fluid to cover the end of the tube will do the same thing owing to fluid viscosity and gravity. When the conventional bleeder is also opened approximately 1/2 turn, fluid can exit vea the port drilled into the bleeder and through the tubing. When the pedal or lever is pressed and the master cylinder piston extended, fluid escapes down the tubing and into the container. When the piston is returned, the viscosity of the fluid greatly restricts its ability to flow backwards up into the caliper or wheel cylinder. As a result, air is also restricted from entering. A small amount may enter around the bleeder threads if the bleeder is greatly unthreaded and if the container being used is placed far below the caliper or wheel cylinders (particularly, 4x4 vehicles with oversized wheels and tires). However, giving gravity but a few seconds to continue pulling the brake fliud out of the master cylinder and down through the bleeder on the caliper or wheel cylinder will vacate the small amount of air that was pulled in around the threads. The use of a clear tube will allow the person performing this task to observe all fluid and air flow.
Right you are but I would rather spend a few bucks on something that I know will not allow air to be introduced into my brake system unless I allow the master cylinders to bleed dry. We all have our preferred methods of getting a job done....so none of us are wrong.....
 
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HDV-GLIDE
I don't believe the 2011's have different calipers then the 09-10 touring models , the same part number should fit.....or pick up the phone and call them to verify.....
I checked. It should be the same SB3824HD as most. Nice to know as "my assistant", aka "the wife" isn't much help. Not that she won't, more like it's sometimes better to do things yourself.....
 
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 03:42 PM
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Always start bleeding the furthest brake caliper from the reservoir first. This way you get all contaminants out the line and will have fresh fluid in the whole system.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by HDV-GLIDE
Right you are but I would rather spend a few bucks on something that I know will not allow air to be introduced into my brake system unless I allow the master cylinders to bleed dry. We all have our preferred methods of getting a job done....so none of us are wrong.....
I agree, as for myself I am lazy, so I use a pneumatic bleeder, connect it up to some shop air and attach the suction hose to the bleeder screw. take the lid off the MC, open the bleeder and stand there adding fresh fluid as the old is sucked out. fast, easy and no mess.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Hate Work
I checked. It should be the same SB3824HD as most. Nice to know as "my assistant", aka "the wife" isn't much help. Not that she won't, more like it's sometimes better to do things yourself.....
i thought it was sb8125l?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by skratch
i thought it was sb8125l?
She said Brembo calipers get the SB3824HD. A way to check is if a SAE 3/8" wrench fits, it should be the 3824, if a metric size wrench is needed, you may have the right part #.
 

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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 12:43 PM
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at work right now so don't have access to the bike, but according to their chart, the sb3824 is for the 06-07 flhx, which didn't have the brembo brakes. the sb8125l will fit the 08-10 flhx, which according to the parts manual, uses the same caliper that my bike uses.

and that is why i have yet to buy these. i've been looking at them for years, but because of the contradiction on their website, i've not ordered.

yeah, i could call and get it straight from the source, but just haven't been that motivated. figure if they want my money, they'll make it easy for me to spend it.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by skratch
at work right now so don't have access to the bike, but according to their chart, the sb3824 is for the 06-07 flhx, which didn't have the brembo brakes. the sb8125l will fit the 08-10 flhx, which according to the parts manual, uses the same caliper that my bike uses.

and that is why i have yet to buy these. i've been looking at them for years, but because of the contradiction on their website, i've not ordered.

yeah, i could call and get it straight from the source, but just haven't been that motivated. figure if they want my money, they'll make it easy for me to spend it.
Per their web page, SB8125L for 08-UP electra glide which uses the same calipers as the RG & SG.......These are on my 09 SG.

http://www.speedbleeder.com/Motorcyc...zes.htm#Harley Davidson
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 05:38 PM
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that's what I thought too, but that contradicts the info that 'hate work' got from sb themselves.....
 
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