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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 06:06 PM
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I know this will lead to oil consumption and smoking, but will it affect the performance of the engine?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Yes it will hurt performance, how much will depend on the amount of oil that is leaking past the seals. I hope it's not your 12 FLTR that is giving you this problem!
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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a sign of bad valve seals will be a pooof of white smoke on start up- the oil leaks past the seals into the cylinder while the motor is off.


white smoke on accel is bad piston ring seal to cylinder walls or wear

white smoke on decel can be bad valve seals, valve guide


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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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Yes it is my 2012. When I had the kit installed my buddies noticed that my left tail pipe kept smoking when I got on the throttle. I didn't think anything about it until I rode the bike to Daytona bike week. On the way there I noticed my oil pressure had kept fluctuating. I pulled into the nearest service station to check my oil. I was nearly three quarts low and the oil was black as tar. This was after my service and oil change. Once I got to Daytona I changed the oil and put Amzoil synthetic in it. It seems to lessen the smoke a bit, but still smoked a bit. The bike pulled fine. Once I got it back home I took it into the HD shop. They're replacing my valve seals and piston rings. The front cylinder had 120 lbs compression and the rear had 160. Waiting to see the performance afterwards. .
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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on accel it is not the valve seals unless they were forgotten altogether.

this points to poor ring seal.

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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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looking at your other post about dyno number and stage 4, I'm guessing the build/machining was poor.

or the break in was not done gradually and the cylinders and piston rings didn't mate


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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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May not hamper performance in the beginning but over time the oil will burn onto the valve stems and clog the ports and also the seats.
 
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If the bike came as a 103" from the factory, does a stage iv kit replace the pistons for higher comp. I'm just curious why the cylinder-piston combination would have been changed but still remain 103".
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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Yes the stage IV kit comes with 10.5-1 pistons. I did put 1000 miles on it before I really got on it. The dyno was done at this point. It smoked once I got it back from the dyno.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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jeez, hope the shop covers their work, rather than stick you with a bill.

the results say that the work was not to a professional standard, and should be rectified


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