Is this a true syn oil or is it just a face lift. I went by the stealer yeaterday and saw this new syn 20/50 motor oil. The dude said it was true syn oil and that they do not carry the other type anymore. Can anyone show me the light!!!!

 

I don't know, but I would never give the dealership money on oil. There are tons of better brands of synthetic readily available at any autoparts store or Walmart.

 

X2 I agree

 

They also changed the bottle for the Formula + priamry fluid. The dealer said it was "re-formulated."

 

Agreed Syn three is over priced.

Reformulated? This stuff has worked great for decades.

 

I did a little research on these oils, they are made by Citgo. Formula+ is just a straight 50wt oil with very little in the way of additives (according to tests posted on bobistheoilguy). I haven't read any info on Syn3, but I suspect it's a mediocre synthetic sold at a premium price.
Warranty may be a good reason to use HD oils, and I'm sure both of these wouldn't cause any oil related problems, but there are certainly far better oils available for less money.

 

Buy Mobil1 syn for vtwins

 

The bottle says full synthetic, I still wouldn't buy that crap at the dealer. Mobil1, Amsoil or Redline are much better choices.

 

If it's full synthetic and a competitive price, why not.

 

Is there any real evidence out there that this oil is crap? Or even that it is mediocre?

Tell you what. Got a buddy that works for a major oil company. I'll see if I can get them to test it and compare it to other,"better", oils.