Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Does weight play a role in acceleration? Who wins??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 05:32 AM
  #11  
grbrown's Avatar
grbrown
Club Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 45,429
Likes: 2,898
From: Bedford UK
Default

Yes, weight has a major role in acceleration. However HP has nothing to do with acceleration, only speed. What is required to accelerate an Ultra as quickly as an RK is more torque. HP is a product of torque (not the other way round) so more torque may also give more HP.
 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 05:42 AM
  #12  
RK Joy's Avatar
RK Joy
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,242
Likes: 3
From: Upstate NY
Default

It does take extra HP to accelerate extra mass. But rolling resistance and other factors come into play. At the end of the day, though, I would not be concerned about drag-race performance on my tour bike.

 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 07:43 AM
  #13  
soniccbr's Avatar
soniccbr
Tourer
Veteran: Navy
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 274
Likes: 7
From: Western Pa
Default

ALL other factors being equal, the lighter vehicle will always go faster.
Google HOTROD's vette hack for a perfect example.
 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:25 AM
  #14  
frog13's Avatar
frog13
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,140
Likes: 17
From: Wisconsin
Default

Simple physics, acceleration = force / mass

The larger the mass for the same force, the less acceleration. That's why I need more horsepower, my body packs more mass.
 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:33 AM
  #15  
White Ice's Avatar
White Ice
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,234
Likes: 462
From: Arizona
Default

Why has nobody mentioned the most important factor? COLOR!!! White bikes are a hell of a lot faster than any old black bike.

Factors affecting motorcycle speed
HP 5%
TQ 5%
Rider 5%
Color 85%
 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:45 AM
  #16  
cruzmisl's Avatar
cruzmisl
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 757
Likes: 4
Default

I know there are hundreds of variables that affect the acceleration. I just want to go based on weight and HP (or TQ since they are related). I also know they're touring bikes not race bikes. A bunch of us were talking about the added weight of the Ultra's and I wanted to see if there was a consensus on how much it affects acceleration, if at all.
 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:48 AM
  #17  
Ohiobellboy's Avatar
Ohiobellboy
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,644
Likes: 32
From: Canton, Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by White Ice
Why has nobody mentioned the most important factor? COLOR!!! White bikes are a hell of a lot faster than any old black bike.

Factors affecting motorcycle speed
HP 5%
TQ 5%
Rider 5%
Color 85%
I wouldn't go that far.


I'd be willing to let a professional rider take mine to the track to compare it with a stock RK to settle it all.
 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:51 AM
  #18  
cruzmisl's Avatar
cruzmisl
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 757
Likes: 4
Default

Originally Posted by Ohiobellboy

I'd be willing to let a professional rider take mine to the track to compare it with a stock RK to settle it all.
Any unscientific stories to share that support or contradict my theory?
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:56 AM
  #19  
Ohiobellboy's Avatar
Ohiobellboy
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,644
Likes: 32
From: Canton, Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by cruzmisl
Any unscientific stories to share that support or contradict my theory?
Nope, You were wondering if a stock RK would keep up/ beat a CVO Ultra. I'm not the best rider that's why I said let a pro take the two bikes to a track and run times with them. Same driver on both bikes, just comparing times. Might be the best way to figure it out.
 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:59 AM
  #20  
rpeters282's Avatar
rpeters282
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
From: Montgomery Alabama
Default

And don't forget "drag" and "surface area". If course these factors have more to do with top speed (as in airplanes) and efficiency.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:15 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE