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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:37 PM
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I am an experienced rider, recently trading a Yami 1700 for an 02 Ultra. There is a 100 lb + difference in the bikes.

I have no problem solo but seem to run into a lot of trouble stopping when the wife is on board (no problem on old bike). I am becoming very conscious of NOT using the front brake, but just about the time the bike comes to a full stop it wants to go over. Of course there is no stopping it.

Any advice? (name withheld because of major embarrassment)
 
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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A. What do you mean there's no stopping it? - I've had mine start to go over but always managed to recover.
B. What are the contreibuting factors? (not to be too delicate - is your wife "heavy" or inclinded not to sit still when the bike is at rest?)

I agree that Ultras can be a little tippy when fully loaded and a passenger on board but it should be manageable.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:41 PM
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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You have to put BOTH feet down, before you come to a stop....Tenn.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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not a true drop unless all your riding buddies are around,still get ribbed by them.have had my bike little ovr 2 years,dropped it about 3 time.first 2 time within the first two months,this last time about two months ago,my foot hung on the passenger board went to pull my foot up and down i went.my buddies helped me pick it up.left for a trip with my friends day after on a trip to ark,heel was sore the whole week on the trip. it going to happen so dont beat yourself up,thats what highway bars are for.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tenn.vol.
You have to put BOTH feet down, before you come to a stop....Tenn.
Really?! If you have to put both feet down before coming to a stop then it's back to riders ed for you . . .
 
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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Keep bars straight when stopping... Riding my Street Glide, I stop with my front brake with the wife.

Is she shifting her weight?

Come to a slower stop.

Practice... Take her in a lot and practice.

The extra 100 lbs in weight shouldn't have too much to do with it.

Practice...


Or, ride solo
 

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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoBlue02
I am an experienced rider, recently trading a Yami 1700 for an 02 Ultra. There is a 100 lb + difference in the bikes.

I have no problem solo but seem to run into a lot of trouble stopping when the wife is on board (no problem on old bike). I am becoming very conscious of NOT using the front brake, but just about the time the bike comes to a full stop it wants to go over. Of course there is no stopping it.

Any advice? (name withheld because of major embarrassment)
What helps me is to have my wife lean her weight off her backrest and put more of her weight on her floorboards. This also shifts her weight forward somewhat. She does this when we are going very slow or getting ready to stop.

We found that with her leaning back, it made the bike feel much more top heavy.

Give it a try for yourself and see if it helps.

Also, don't overload the tourpak. Try to keep the weight in the saddlebags.

Good luck and ride safe.
 
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Don't feel bad man, not everyone is built like an ostrich. My first Ultra went down 3 times and my passenger is very mindful and her little 100 lb self was most helpful at picking it back up. The trick for me was to absolutely positively be looking straight forward when I came to a stop, to the point of consciously leaning my head back to make sure. Front wheel has to be dead straight too. Don't know if that was it or just gaining experience, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. That and being very aware of any kind of slope or incline that you can try to avoid. That's what got me those 3 times. I can park the FXR on the front porch steps, but that beast of an Ultra is a different story that has to be adjusted to.
 

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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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Use the front brake to stop as well. It is important to have both feet available for two-up stopping. Also ensure your passenger is not moving around at stops until you get used to the bike. Not always about weight.
 
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