Neither my bike nor me can tell the difference. I buy whichever is on sale every spring. And I always check the gap's.

 

My thought? Those plugs would KILL the ION sensing in my bike. No deal!

 

1st of all in that dyno report... it was very clear that the ECU had not recognized the Pulstar plugs. The lines were almost on top of each other all the way through the report. Even if you ran OEM plugs, SE plugs, NGK, Champion, Denso, Autolite, E-3, etc. That would never, ever happen... again. And we all know it.

 

I called Thunderbird HD yesterday... they have been a Pulstar dealer for well over 2 yrs now. They basically told me... the only plugs that will have any negative effect on the ION sensing in my bike... would be a non-resistor plug. They have never seen this from Plustar. I have never personally met anyone who has had a prob. because of the type of plugs they were using. Have you? If you search the forum... people use all brands of spark plugs with no issue at all... and someone always makes this statement. You are more than welcome to call Thunderbird HD in NM. They also said this is your local dealerships way of trying to imply you should only use OEM parts. They can not make us... we can run any brand of part we want... oil, oil filters, exhaust, air cleaner, etc.

 

How about you send me a set and I will report back to the forum if there was any difference with the Pulstars?

 

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Installed the Pulstar plugs in my 107 Street Glide. I was not optimistic when purchasing these plugs but will admit i'm a sucker at trying new products that usually claim more than what's realistic. I've now put a few hundred miles on these plugs and can make an honest assessment. To my surprise, the bike actually feels stronger and more lively. My butt dyno tells me there is some noticeable improvement here. Also getting a couple more miles to the gallon. For those of you on the fence, I'd say for the realtively small price they are worth a try.
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Better starting? Better mpg? Better idle? all the things "Bro" told us about?

I have all of the above, I must admit I was kind of hoping I wouldn't notice any change, but I do. I admit this thread was severly hijacked, and that's an understatement, plus some of the post by the vendor were long and repeatitive, but so far for me, the plugs do make a difference.
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I said I would post my initial results with the plugs, so the following are my results so far. Last week I rode to Daytona and back on the OEM plugs and averaged 34 mpg. This week I installed the plugs and rode to St Petersburg and back averaging 39 mpg. I rode the same speeds on both trips, on the Daytona trip I had about 25lbs of luggage, but I don't think that would make a 5mpg difference. The bike actually feels more happy, (if that makes sense), when rolling on the throttle the response is quicker, I don't work for or know anybody from Incognito, and I didn't even get the discount now offered on the plugs, I think the shipping is a bit high, but if the plugs last as long as they claim, I'm happy with them. I will post results again after I get a few thousand miles on the plugs and see if they are still yielding good results.

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For you and the other guy who will report in the spring, kinda derails that 30 day money back deal if you have to wait 3 to 5 months for your first ride. I still like the comparison to a fuse burning. The spark plug ignites the mixture surrounding the plug, but after that, it is one little chunk of mixture igniting the next adjacent little chunk of mixture independent of how the process was started. Also, no one has guestimated how this plug interacts with ion knock suppression system.

there is no issue with knock suppression, that works fine. plugs cause no issues


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I'm with ya. I like that description, "the bike feels happier". I agree. my bike is responding much better with the plugs, I believe the dyno #'s but I also believe what I'm feeling, and its not "wishful thinking" thats making my bike run better. Just saying
measured my mileage today. I'm not a gas mileage guy, it is what it is, when I need gas, just get it. I knew my bike was at 40mpg, measured it several months ago, thats combined hwy and surface streets, but mostly freeway, (it is San Diego, ya know!) mileage did rise, not a lot but its 43.7 mpg. not gonna change the world, but it did increase from the plug change

JackedUpBack
Better starting? Better mpg? Better idle? all the things "Bro" told us about?

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I just installed mine today, and I can attest to quicker cold starts, smoother idle, and more responsive throttle, when I get a few miles in, I'll report back on the rest. BTW the plugs I took out only had about 2500 miles on them, so the noticeable difference wasn't because I went from old to new plugs. __________________
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My numbers work out to about 16 miles more per tank.
You will have to forgive me for still being skeptical. Over the years I have been told quite a few times about products that make claims of better mileage and power. To date, this is the only one the appears legit. I guess no matter how stubborn you are, it still pays to take a chance sometimes..
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well got in about 200 miles today , right off I will say I don't check my MPG , it's a toy unless I am doing something spicific I don't worry about it but first thing I noticed was a soother idle , bike did not seem to start much different though , second thing is power , there is a red light in the town were I live at the top of a hill and you will just about allways get stuck there . I would have to rev it alittle more than normal and ease out on the clutch , not today just sort of pulled off like normal . my 3rd thing and real surprise is no more preignition , can cruse though town or down the road at 40 -45 in 6th gear and no rattle , still
have to down shift to get on it but I can cruse like that and just ease into it with no lugging or rattle ,can cruse at 60 in 6th with no problem so that should help with the MPG , allways had a rattle between 2000 & 2500 . gone now . is it like a turbo NO , like nitrus , NO is it a bunch better and worth the $30 - $50 , you bet ya and I will be keepimg mine and getting a set for my wifes bike [ just incase I ride it ]
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I like these plugs, used them on my last bike. I will replace my current plugs with these once the plugs wear out. The Pulstars do what they say and I noticed an instant difference when I started the bike, then when I roled on the throttle from idle. Amazing to say the least. Gas mileage; well I guess I saw a difference. Of course it said it produces more power so I kinda romped on it more than I should to "feel" the difference. I didn't. Just wasted gas ha ha. But well worth the money spent and will do again. I just hate to waste perfectly good spark plugs.

 

There is a 30-day money back Guarantee. If you run them for 28 days & do not like them... I will give you your money back. So there is no risk to you... to try them, at all.

 

Yes if anybody is interested in purchasing those plugs, please do contact Harley Charlie to find out what his thoughts are about the product. He will go on to tell you all about this Incognito guy and what his product amounts to. There is also another member soft 02 that bought the plugs and noticed no difference. He used them in excess of 2000 miles and tried all of the recomended adjustments by pulstar. All he ended up with was an overpriced set of spark plugs that gave have sub-par performance and worse gas mileage. If memory serves me correctly, about 25% worse gas mileage.

There was an entire thread here where the pulstar plugs were independently dyno tested by someone with no interest in the company. The results were within a half of a horsepower of each other, which technically is within the pulstar claim of up to a 12% improvement over stock. Half of a hp is within the up to 12% range, right? In that thread there was also a guy that was not happy with the plugs and wanted a refund. All pulstar was going to give him was another set of plugs, as Incognito put it, there must have been something wrong with the original set. I wish I could remember who that was, but since that thread mysteriously is gone, I cannot point the guy out. I am certain he would be more then happy to tell you about his experience though.

As far as finding an h/d dealer that sells this snake oil, thas pretty convienient that they would tell you that there is no problem running the plugs. I am sure that thei sales would be out the roof if they told you the truth about what the plugs will do. How many people have found harley dealers to be completely honest and upfront about somthing? They are all about the customer, not about the profit, right?

This Incognito guy has made so many outlandish claims and while trying to simultaneously claim that he is a mechanic by trade and a rider by hobby. If anybody were to absorb the garbage he spews, it is obvious he knows little about either. The only thing he is good at is copying and pasting corporate propaganda in the hopes to swindle the money of hard working folks that are merely looking for something better. Unfortunately, he is not selling something better, and in a few months, the only ones that will remember the pulstar brand are the ones that wasted their money on it.

 

That was already tried. Incognito did not like the results and then tried to blame the guy that ran the tests. Blaming him for not letting the ECU adjust to the plugs, then it was that he was running it too rich, and then it was because he did not retard the timing 3 degrees. Yes, thats right. The results were skewed because the guy running the tests did not RETARD THE TIMING 3 degrees. Anybody that knows anything about an interna combustion engine and how it produces power would know that this is BS. Yet pulstars secret to making more power is by retarding timing? How would an ECU adjust itself for this? They only retard the timing if spark knock is sensed to avoid detonation. The only way you could override this is to buy an expensive tuner for the bike. Yes, it may work, but tis is no longer a $50 spark plug change here, now it is in the few hundreds of dollars, right? All this to pick up half a horsepower?

Go back through some of Pulstars propoganda and Incognitos garbage. He also claims that your rpms at a given speed will drop, as they have on his friends motorcycles. No gearing changes, just by changing your plugs. Thats right, no gearing changes to acheive a lower rpm. Wow, these things must be magic to pull that off. Either that, or Pulstar and Incognito are living in fantasy land.

 

1st of all... this guy is not even using the pulstar Plugs. I would like to ask you to try them for 28-days and make your decision based on your own experience. If you do not like them. I will give your money back to you. No one has contacted me... with bad results by, e-mail, PM, or phone (which is what I would prefer). I am not just here to make a sale... I am available as long as you are using the Pulstar Plugs. Believe me if you want your money back... I will give it to you (report me to the HD Forum if I do not).