Question about factory CD Player ?
Road Captain
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From: Huntington Beach
Burning an audio CD doesn't necessarily sound better. Depends on the bit and sampling rate of the original song's digital file.
Also a note, if you use a Macintosh, iTunes will add an image preview to the mp3 file if it can find one in its database. This addition will make the mp3 file unreadable by the HD CD player.
To delete an audio file image, i.e. Artwork, you have to select the song in iTunes, Get Info (right click), go to the Artwork tab, click on the artwork, then click on the Delete button.
Also a note, if you use a Macintosh, iTunes will add an image preview to the mp3 file if it can find one in its database. This addition will make the mp3 file unreadable by the HD CD player.
To delete an audio file image, i.e. Artwork, you have to select the song in iTunes, Get Info (right click), go to the Artwork tab, click on the artwork, then click on the Delete button.
Road Warrior
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From: Connecticut
"Ok you guys are right about my recorded disc evidently being in the wrong format for the bike. I didn't think about that since it played back fine on my computer. Now I have to figure out how to burn it correctly for the bike. I put a store bought cd in and it worked fine."
As others have mentioned:
Do the mp3 files that you're burning happen to have imbedded cover art? (as a part of the "metadata" contained in the files, not actually part of the music itself)
If so, try "stripping out" the cover art. Then re-burn some files in a "test mp3 cd", and try again.
There are utilities out there that can do this.
One way is to "pre-assemble" all the mp3 files you'll be burning in a single folder, then use a batch-processing utility to strip out all the album art from the files in the folder. Then, burn to CD.
As others have mentioned:
Do the mp3 files that you're burning happen to have imbedded cover art? (as a part of the "metadata" contained in the files, not actually part of the music itself)
If so, try "stripping out" the cover art. Then re-burn some files in a "test mp3 cd", and try again.
There are utilities out there that can do this.
One way is to "pre-assemble" all the mp3 files you'll be burning in a single folder, then use a batch-processing utility to strip out all the album art from the files in the folder. Then, burn to CD.
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From: anacoco, la
You don't have to burn them as a data CD, although you will get more on the CD that way, the quality will not be as good, so burn them as an audio CD. You should always burn at the highest bit rate and sample rate that you can. You will notice the difference. There are a lot of free CD burners that are very easy to use, like Ashampoo.
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At 70 mph I couldn't tell the difference if the actual band was on the back of my bike playing the songs live........
Burning as a audio cd will sound better if you don't mind only being to fit a dozen or so songs per disk.... I don't want to stop every hour to change disks....
Burning as a audio cd will sound better if you don't mind only being to fit a dozen or so songs per disk.... I don't want to stop every hour to change disks....
You can burn a NORMAL CD that can be played on any CD player, which will fit about a dozen songs. (highest quality)
Or you can burn an AUDIO MP3 CD, which can only be played on a MP3 player and will fit about 100 songs, depending on the songs. (mid quality)
Then there is the DATA MP3 CD, which can only be played on a MP3 player and is much like the Audio MP3 CDs except they are even lower quality and will fit even more songs. (low quality)
Whether Audio or Data they are still MP3s and are not Normal CDs. And audio MP3 CDs sound noticeably better than data MP3 CDs on our bikes where the quality of the music source makes a huge difference, especially at 70 mph.
Last edited by jjnoble; Dec 30, 2012 at 05:12 AM.
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I burn data cd's and have some with over 125 songs. I have hogtunes system with the 40.4 amp tweeter pod, lower woofers and 4 hogtune speakers and the data cd's sound just fine at speed or slower and don't have to stop every hour and change cd's, in fact I can ride all day an not have to change
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sounds to me like you are confusing things. a 'normal' cd is an audio cd where the music is in 'cda' format. the mp3 cd, if burned as data will fit quite a bit more songs on the disk. how many is determined by the quality of the mp3. i rip mine at 256kbps - 320kpbs so they are larger, but with a 16gb nano, i still have days worth of music and the quality is so close to cd that my ears can't tell the difference...
but this distinction that you are making between audio mp3s and data mp3s is something that i've never heard of, and apparently neither has google.
but this distinction that you are making between audio mp3s and data mp3s is something that i've never heard of, and apparently neither has google.
You are confusing few things.
You can burn a NORMAL CD that can be played on any CD player, which will fit about a dozen songs. (highest quality)
Or you can burn an AUDIO MP3 CD, which can only be played on a MP3 player and will fit about 100 songs, depending on the songs. (mid quality)
Then there is the DATA MP3 CD, which can only be played on a MP3 player and is much like the Audio MP3 CDs except they are even lower quality and will fit even more songs. (low quality)
Whether Audio or Data they are still MP3s and are not Normal CDs. And audio MP3 CDs sound noticeably better than data MP3 CDs on our bikes where the quality of the music source makes a huge difference, especially at 70 mph.
You can burn a NORMAL CD that can be played on any CD player, which will fit about a dozen songs. (highest quality)
Or you can burn an AUDIO MP3 CD, which can only be played on a MP3 player and will fit about 100 songs, depending on the songs. (mid quality)
Then there is the DATA MP3 CD, which can only be played on a MP3 player and is much like the Audio MP3 CDs except they are even lower quality and will fit even more songs. (low quality)
Whether Audio or Data they are still MP3s and are not Normal CDs. And audio MP3 CDs sound noticeably better than data MP3 CDs on our bikes where the quality of the music source makes a huge difference, especially at 70 mph.
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sounds to me like you are confusing things. a 'normal' cd is an audio cd where the music is in 'cda' format. the mp3 cd, if burned as data will fit quite a bit more songs on the disk. how many is determined by the quality of the mp3. i rip mine at 256kbps - 320kpbs so they are larger, but with a 16gb nano, i still have days worth of music and the quality is so close to cd that my ears can't tell the difference...
but this distinction that you are making between audio mp3s and data mp3s is something that i've never heard of, and apparently neither has google.
but this distinction that you are making between audio mp3s and data mp3s is something that i've never heard of, and apparently neither has google.
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From: anacoco, la
Wrong, there is a difference and you have heard about it because I told you about it.
I saw it on the internet, it must be true.... i've heard a lot of misinformation on the internet. i don't take anything i hear or read at face value
But you do what you want, obviously I'm writing this to the people who want to know, not you.
no need to be a dick about it
I saw it on the internet, it must be true.... i've heard a lot of misinformation on the internet. i don't take anything i hear or read at face value
But you do what you want, obviously I'm writing this to the people who want to know, not you.
no need to be a dick about it
if i choose to leave it at data, then it will not convert. there is no choice to do a 'data mp3' format vs 'audio mp3' format. like i said, i rip my cds at 256kbps or better, when i burn them to a cd, they are still at 256kbps....
and thank you for your blessing to do as i want. that makes me feel much better knowing that i have it.
Last edited by skratch; Dec 30, 2012 at 12:52 PM.
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i use nero to burn cds. if i choose to burn an audio cd, and put mp3 in the queue, it will automatically convert them to cda format, which is a higher quality format and will only fit 12-15 per disk. however, the converted file will never be of higher quality than the original.
if i choose to leave it at data, then it will not convert. there is no choice to do a 'data mp3' format vs 'audio mp3' format. like i said, i rip my cds at 256kbps or better, when i burn them to a cd, they are still at 256kbps....
and thank you for your blessing to do as i want. that makes me feel much better knowing that i have it.
if i choose to leave it at data, then it will not convert. there is no choice to do a 'data mp3' format vs 'audio mp3' format. like i said, i rip my cds at 256kbps or better, when i burn them to a cd, they are still at 256kbps....
and thank you for your blessing to do as i want. that makes me feel much better knowing that i have it.