CAM Upgrade and Warranty Issues
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CAM Upgrade and Warranty Issues
Bought a 2013 and am seriously considering a Woods 222 cam upgrade. Of course there is the concern of having problems that are not covered by Harley's warranty.
My question is, has anyone upgraded to a top manufacture's cam (Woods, Andrews, S&S) and actually had it fail in a way that caused out-of-warranty damage?
My question is, has anyone upgraded to a top manufacture's cam (Woods, Andrews, S&S) and actually had it fail in a way that caused out-of-warranty damage?
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If the dealer doesn't do the work and stand behind the warranty then they have every right to refuse warranty work if they can prove the modification caused the problem. Once it's denied because of modification you are screwed. You already knew that though I'm sure. I will wait another year until I either sell this under powered POS or go back to a Yamaha Stratoliner that had some real power. The power isn't horrible but I sure miss the 100hp + Yammie.
Last edited by KCFLHRC; Jan 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM.
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aside from the cams- you would then need a "tuner" most of which violate the warranty being made for "off road, closed competition".
Just wait until your warranty has expired.
the cams contribute to almost every way in which the motor functions- the owner changing that takes on the responsibility that all the parts will work together at the stresses and loads within design parameters.
a "tuner" change may raise the rev limiter beyond "safe" limits, and may also alter ignition timing and air fuel ratios in such a way that damage can result. it would be up to the owner to prove that the installed devices caused no damages.
Mike
Just wait until your warranty has expired.
the cams contribute to almost every way in which the motor functions- the owner changing that takes on the responsibility that all the parts will work together at the stresses and loads within design parameters.
a "tuner" change may raise the rev limiter beyond "safe" limits, and may also alter ignition timing and air fuel ratios in such a way that damage can result. it would be up to the owner to prove that the installed devices caused no damages.
Mike
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Which, by the way, eliminates most of the SE cams from warranty consideration.
I had the dealer install SE255 cams at the time of my purchase. As long as the cam was installed within 30 days of purchase, they then fall under the 2-year factory warranty.
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That whole warranty/modification deal is a PITA. The moco is happy to sell and install for you, certain performance items that they deem ok? What a crock. They will damn sure sell you THEIR tuner which you can use to change many parameters in your ECM. Does this void your warranty?
I've always done what I wanted with mine and let the chips fall where they may. No problems so far, knock on wood.
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Its very rare for a camshaft(s) to fail. If there is a camshaft issue, its normally surface pitting due to improper heat treating. This can happen to any camshaft you purchase. Theres no way to determine this before installation.
If warranty issues are a serious concern, go get a quote from your dealer and see if they will put it under the warranty umbrella with the rest of the motor. Often, when installed by them a dealership will do this, but not always. Yeah, this will cost more than doing it yourself.
If warranty issues are a serious concern, go get a quote from your dealer and see if they will put it under the warranty umbrella with the rest of the motor. Often, when installed by them a dealership will do this, but not always. Yeah, this will cost more than doing it yourself.
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