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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Deer Stalker
I understand, but there's a world of difference between a quick stage one fueling clean up and for instance at the extreme end dumping a 120r race engine into a tourer - isn't there?
Yes there is, I haven't really thought about it but if I had all the extra cash needed to do it I might do it too. I had a friend with a hopped up hardtail and when he smoked me off the line on my old import I was impressed and learned a lesson about how important torgue was compared to HP. I'm sure he had a big grin knowing that he got me off the line and I'll bet it was worth every penny to him. Bottom line unlimited money I might do it, till then I'll keep looking for a good deal on a used Ducati or the like.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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I like going fast - S&S crate motors for me
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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Maybe one of you can help me convince my wife I need that yellow ducati 1098....
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mkguitar
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The major drawbacks would be pushrod valves and air cooling.

The chassis is way heavy.
Tell this nonsense to the designers at Yamaha that have a heavyweight touring bike, push rod motor and air cooling that it's a bad platform. It's called a Stratoliner, pushing out right at 100 hp stock. Harley refuses to do it because it would kill their Screamin Eagle Nonsense, or should I say Screamin Beagle, or their designers and engineers are just too stupid to figure it out.
 

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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Because I want a Harley and that is what we unfortunately have to do.

If I wanted a powerful Road King like bike (with no soul) I would pick up a Honda Valkyrie like my best bud has and be done with it. But as fun as that bike is, it ain't a Harley.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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Because stock anything isn't enough.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KCFLHRC
Tell this nonsense to the designers at Yamaha that have a heavyweight touring bike, push rod motor and air cooling that it's a bad platform. It's called a Stratoliner, pushing out right at 100 hp stock. Harley refuses to do it because it would kill their Screamin Eagle Nonsense, or should I say Screamin Beagle, or their designers and engineers are just too stupid to figure it out.
100hp stock my ***. The yamaha 113 dyno hp is in the low 80s. The torque is in the 107 lb area.

There is more to riding a bike than pure power. If power were the only thing that mattered, the rocket III and the Boss Hoss would be outselling Harleys by the boatload.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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I don't think anyone goes directly from stock to a 120r motor - it's like eating hot peppers - you get accustomed to what you have and want more. Once you own a bike you can make improvements a little at a time and have fun doing it.
 
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I felt the same way coming off my VTX-1800 that i used to call the Harley killer, and when i bought my Glide i understood why it was so easy for me to smoke my buddies on HD's. As for "sole" umm ok. Stage one is coming in the spring.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by diggerv
Perhaps it is an American thing. We like things bigger, faster, louder and we'll do whatever it takes to get it.
Exactly, it is inherently American to want more of just about anything but especially, when it comes to horsepower.
 
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