Cams... Is it worth me doing?
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Cams... Is it worth me doing?
I have an 09 Streetglide with a stock motor. I have Fuel Moto slip-ons, screaming eagle heavy breather, and a programer done by Fuel Moto.
I would like to do the 107 build, but the funds don't allow this to happen right now. I was looking at just throwing a Fuel Moto cam at the bike this year.
If I did cams only and kept the stock headpipe, would I notoice much of a difference? Do I NEED to change the head pipe also? Keep in mind that the 09's don't have a converter.
I would like to do the 107 build, but the funds don't allow this to happen right now. I was looking at just throwing a Fuel Moto cam at the bike this year.
If I did cams only and kept the stock headpipe, would I notoice much of a difference? Do I NEED to change the head pipe also? Keep in mind that the 09's don't have a converter.
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You'll need a few other parts to install along with the cams. Needle bearing, push rods,and maybe a SE clutch spring to handle the extra Torque. You'll definately feel the difference in the seat.
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You will need mild cams, adjustable push rods, new cam bearings (and tools to r&r them) new lifters (chevy ones),all gaskets and seals, a good set of hand tools, a shop manual and watch the video on youtube about changing cams(about 57 minutes), good mechanical abilities and away you go.
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Probably about a 10lb tq boost and 10hp boost with the right cams and tune. You say you have a FM programer, not sure which one you have. Your best bet would be to direct this question to Fuel Moto, they're full of good info.
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My personal opinion.
You would fair better with headwork, piston and cam
Vs the 107 build. As far as value goes.
There is a lot of power to be had with flow, compression and fuel/timing than what you think.
I wouldn't do a cam without some headwork.
You would fair better with headwork, piston and cam
Vs the 107 build. As far as value goes.
There is a lot of power to be had with flow, compression and fuel/timing than what you think.
I wouldn't do a cam without some headwork.
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Last fall I did a 107" & cams on my 2009 RG. Love it. The cams I used were T-man 555tq and they really put out great torque in the lower RPM range. I dyno'd at 95 HP & 118 TQ. I think the HP was light and I'm going to run it again this summer with a new tune and see if it improves. No head work at all and 9.8.1 compression.
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You may find (like myself) that cams are enough upgrade to satisfy your need for speed. I just can't make myself break down a perfectly good engine in the name of more power. (mines an 06 and had the troublesome chain tensioners) so I had a good excuse for cams.....
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I guess the problem I have is after I did the breather, tuner, and slip-ons, I didn't notice much change.
I talked to Jamie 2 years ago about cams and for around $700 (cams, install kit, & pushrods) I could get the cams. I think it was about another $300 to have it installed.
I could cough up another $300 (total equaling $1300) for the 107 kit. Another $700 to have that installed. Trying to get the most bang for the buck.
And then, if I have to get a different head pipe, that would run me another 5 bills!
Of course I 'm trying to keep the price down because I have yet to find "the money tree" in the back yard yet.
Since I live about 15 minutes away from Fuel Moto, I could run down there and see what Jamie suggests, I was just looking for some personal opinion's.
I talked to Jamie 2 years ago about cams and for around $700 (cams, install kit, & pushrods) I could get the cams. I think it was about another $300 to have it installed.
I could cough up another $300 (total equaling $1300) for the 107 kit. Another $700 to have that installed. Trying to get the most bang for the buck.
And then, if I have to get a different head pipe, that would run me another 5 bills!
Of course I 'm trying to keep the price down because I have yet to find "the money tree" in the back yard yet.
Since I live about 15 minutes away from Fuel Moto, I could run down there and see what Jamie suggests, I was just looking for some personal opinion's.
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I don't see $700 in a cam kit for an '09.
FWIW, I did cams last year and the big bore kit this year. Heads will be done next winter. I heard all about doing all at once, too, but like you I don't have a money tree either. I also am not willing to try to save til I have enough $$ to do it all at once, cuz if I try to, something will come up and that $$ will get used for that instead. You'll definitely feel a set of cams. And do it yourself it isn't that difficult.
FWIW, I did cams last year and the big bore kit this year. Heads will be done next winter. I heard all about doing all at once, too, but like you I don't have a money tree either. I also am not willing to try to save til I have enough $$ to do it all at once, cuz if I try to, something will come up and that $$ will get used for that instead. You'll definitely feel a set of cams. And do it yourself it isn't that difficult.
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I don't see $700 in a cam kit for an '09.
FWIW, I did cams last year and the big bore kit this year. Heads will be done next winter. I heard all about doing all at once, too, but like you I don't have a money tree either. I also am not willing to try to save til I have enough $$ to do it all at once, cuz if I try to, something will come up and that $$ will get used for that instead. You'll definitely feel a set of cams. And do it yourself it isn't that difficult.
FWIW, I did cams last year and the big bore kit this year. Heads will be done next winter. I heard all about doing all at once, too, but like you I don't have a money tree either. I also am not willing to try to save til I have enough $$ to do it all at once, cuz if I try to, something will come up and that $$ will get used for that instead. You'll definitely feel a set of cams. And do it yourself it isn't that difficult.
Your right on the price, not $700, my mistake. Oops! I thought I saw on their site $390 for cams, $50 for the gasket kit, and $140 for the pushrods. Total is $580!
Did you get a different headpipe last year or are you running your stock pipe?
Last edited by LoBoy; Mar 24, 2013 at 08:23 PM.