Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Power Vision Autotune Basic Help?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 11:53 PM
  #11  
Dr. Tiki's Avatar
Dr. Tiki
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,347
Likes: 602
From: The 9th Island
Default

Just because I took the effort to make a video to show you mine... I'm going to link it anyways though you found your problem.

 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2013 | 05:18 AM
  #12  
nirschl's Avatar
nirschl
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 439
Likes: 8
From: Japan
Default

Thanks a lot for taking the time to do that, friend. I was checking my phone for updates while I was out on the road and saw your previous post. I pulled off to the side of the road and right there the problem was solved. I started a new log and ran the bike for another 30-40mins. Re-flashed the ECM with the new tune and it was instantly smoother. It was darn close already I thought with the FM map. But something smoothed out. Acceleration and shifting was easier I believe.
I'm still learning all this stuff...I'm sure it'll never end.

Thanks again! Cheers
 
Reply
Old May 4, 2013 | 05:05 PM
  #13  
Warren9073's Avatar
Warren9073
Tourer
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 279
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default Glad the OP got his problem solved...

I have run Auto tune several times now and eachtime seemed successful but when I do a compare in WinPV there is absolutly nodifference.

I started with the map from Fuel Moto. I ran a data log for about 15 minutes. I had a lot of RED boxes on the screen unlikethe videos I have seem with all green numbers. I hit exit on the datalog screen (with the bike still running) and savedthe tune to an empty slot. I then shut the bike off and flashed the newtune. I ran the process again only thistime using the saved Autotune as the starting point. When done with both tunes and flashes I connect the PV to my PC and do acompare. No differences at all.

Anyone have any ideas? Why do I see so many red squares when data logging and why don't I seeany differences in WinPV? When I comparethe two maps sent by FM I can see differences.

Sorry I posted this in the touring section. One more thing is that when I stopped data logging it said "0% difference and 7% max" yet the screen had a lot of red squares .
 

Last edited by Warren9073; May 4, 2013 at 05:08 PM.
Reply
Old May 4, 2013 | 10:09 PM
  #14  
$tonecold's Avatar
$tonecold
Club Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,708
Likes: 2,213
From: Gilbert, Az.
Riders Club Member
Default

Originally Posted by Warren9073
I have run Auto tune several times now and eachtime seemed successful but when I do a compare in WinPV there is absolutly nodifference.

I started with the map from Fuel Moto. I ran a data log for about 15 minutes. I had a lot of RED boxes on the screen unlikethe videos I have seem with all green numbers. I hit exit on the datalog screen (with the bike still running) and savedthe tune to an empty slot. I then shut the bike off and flashed the newtune. I ran the process again only thistime using the saved Autotune as the starting point. When done with both tunes and flashes I connect the PV to my PC and do acompare. No differences at all.

Anyone have any ideas? Why do I see so many red squares when data logging and why don't I seeany differences in WinPV? When I comparethe two maps sent by FM I can see differences.

Sorry I posted this in the touring section. One more thing is that when I stopped data logging it said "0% difference and 7% max" yet the screen had a lot of red squares .
The squares turn red when they have had enough hits to datalog, it doesn't necessarily mean there is a change. Before you do a tuning session are you doing a reset on the trims? This is on page 4-50 in the WinPV User's Guide. When you do the compare are you doing this in the VE tables? That is what changes when you auto-tune. If there are no changes it may be that it is a good tune.
 
Reply
Old May 4, 2013 | 10:37 PM
  #15  
Warren9073's Avatar
Warren9073
Tourer
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 279
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default

Originally Posted by $tonecold
The squares turn red when they have had enough hits to datalog, it doesn't necessarily mean there is a change. Before you do a tuning session are you doing a reset on the trims? This is on page 4-50 in the WinPV User's Guide. When you do the compare are you doing this in the VE tables? That is what changes when you auto-tune. If there are no changes it may be that it is a good tune.
Thanks $toneCold

I didn't know that about the red but I did have my WinPV in Basic mode and did not see the VE tables. After setting the option to Pro mode I can now see the changes made.
 
Reply
Old May 5, 2013 | 12:11 AM
  #16  
user 8373900's Avatar
user 8373900
Banned
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,492
Likes: 10
Default

I just installed my PC Vision after having a PC5 and at the very end when they ask you to turn off the ignition for 10 seconds, I didn't select OK first. Did it still load the map? Or maybe I should re-load..

Mark
 
Reply
Old May 5, 2013 | 07:51 AM
  #17  
Warren9073's Avatar
Warren9073
Tourer
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 279
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Default

Originally Posted by ONEDOWNAND5UP
I just installed my PC Vision after having a PC5 and at the very end when they ask you to turn off the ignition for 10 seconds, I didn't select OK first. Did it still load the map? Or maybe I should re-load..

Mark
I did that to but I really don't think it makes a difference. At that point the only important thing is that you power it off.
 
Reply
Old May 5, 2013 | 10:05 PM
  #18  
ke5rbd's Avatar
ke5rbd
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,648
Likes: 37
From: Monroe, Louisiana
Default

Originally Posted by ONEDOWNAND5UP
I just installed my PC Vision after having a PC5 and at the very end when they ask you to turn off the ignition for 10 seconds, I didn't select OK first. Did it still load the map? Or maybe I should re-load..

Mark
Yes it still loaded it.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 5, 2013 | 10:09 PM
  #19  
user 8373900's Avatar
user 8373900
Banned
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,492
Likes: 10
Default

Originally Posted by ke5rbd
Yes it still loaded it.
Thanks, took it on a 250 mi shakedown today and clocked 49 MPG 2 up? And it runs better than the PC5 did Holy Moly!!

Mark
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rrogers4
Fuel Moto / Jackpot Mufflers
1
Mar 6, 2014 11:16 AM
Loc_Tite
Touring Models
3
Apr 18, 2013 11:03 AM
Rhonda
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
8
Feb 15, 2013 03:32 PM
gant
General Harley Davidson Chat
5
Aug 16, 2012 11:35 AM
Hrlyrider
Touring Models
24
Mar 7, 2010 08:51 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:52 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE