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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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No more synthetic oil for me....

After seeing my Cams worn out after 50k and changing my oil every 3k miles....I'm done.....I know the Cams were a problem in 2009 but engine and primary is SO MUCH More...QUIETER...

Rebuilt engine:
Using Harley 20 50 standard oil / Harley Primary / Red Line Shock Prof

I know the Red Line stuff is Syntec.... but my Tranny is Golden

Went for a ride Tracy Ca. 106deg. to repeat: the engine and primary is SO MUCH More...QUIETER...

I'll save $$ and still change my oil every 3k miles.. I'll report back in another 50K miles


 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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What had you been using for last 50k miles?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hog95023
What had you been using for last 50k miles?
Red Line Oil
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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Bummer. Changed to red line in all 3 holes after 1k. Can't help but wonder what else is going on here. Red line is top of the line product. What weight were you using? 5w-30?? Doesn't jive. Great oil. 3k changes. Bad cams at 50k. Naaahh. Something doesn't smell right.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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i've quit using synthetic as well. straight 50 weight for me in the summer and 20W/50 blend in the winter months. motor is much quieter, adjusted my changes to every 3K and no problems since. Cheaper as well. No noticable change in engine temp huge reduction in noise. Quit running chrome filters as well, went with HD black filter, cheaper and you can't see the filter anyway due to the hoses for the oil cooler, so why pay extra for chrome.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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There is something else goin on there. Never used Redline but use AMSOIL, Mobil 1 and Syn 3 for years. I have never seen any wear problems what so ever with any of them when changing cams or breakin cases apart. Sounds like there is some mechanical issue.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bigskyroadglide
i've quit using synthetic as well. straight 50 weight for me in the summer and 20W/50 blend in the winter months. motor is much quieter, adjusted my changes to every 3K and no problems since. Cheaper as well. No noticable change in engine temp huge reduction in noise. Quit running chrome filters as well, went with HD black filter, cheaper and you can't see the filter anyway due to the hoses for the oil cooler, so why pay extra for chrome.
I will probably always use synthetic oils. Just makes too much sense based on the data. Too me anyway. YMMV. Why did you change back to dyno? What problems or was it a cost issue? Just curious.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 03:16 PM
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Yes, something else is up, I can't see it being the oil. My '05 is still steaming on at 85,000 and my '09 at 42,000 all on Syn3.
 
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Originally Posted by trackadaptor
No more synthetic oil for me....

After seeing my Cams worn out
Like the lobes on the cams aren't the same lift or duration anymore from excessive friction or what? chunks of metal missing? Were the lifters still within spec? How did you determine that the cams were "worn out"?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 04:24 PM
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There is something else going on in that engine than the Syn Oil! Lol
 
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