Need pipe suggestions
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From: Phoenix '53, '88, '09 Big Twins
if flow is increased, tuning compensation will most likely be required.
there are tuning solutions from $125 to $1000.
this can be a warranty killer- (some devices allow operation outside of designed parameters which can pooch the motor)
as above, the catalytic converter restricts flow and sound- if you "gut the cat" or swap header pipes to a non-cat style ( $100 vs $600)- you should also be aware that this violates the warranty- and if your State does inspections, you may be in trouble down the road for "tampering" ( 2010+ Federal regs).
just to be aware of..
you may just find that with a removed cat that the mufflers you already have ( 3 sets now?) work just right
so you open up the exhaust ( yay!), if you then open up the intake with any of the hiflow intakes, you will realize about 10% more power ( yay again).
hi flow intakes will cost anywhere from just over $100 to $300.
this is the "stage 1".
a stage 1 can cost anywhere from $600 DIY to $2000 dropping at the dealer and paying full boat for all they offer.
if sound is a rider's concern, go to a bike night and listen to what other guys use- make the correct choice the first time, not the 3rd or 4th
factor in whether you like the radio, if you like to ride 8 or 10 hours a day. or if you are just running around the neighborhood ( and if your neighbors have kids who go to bed at 8pm)
FWIW I have an 09 model with no cat in the headers, supertrapp/ screaming eagle nightstick mufflers with adjustable disks- these can be as loud or as quiet as I want- adjustable.( $200 used)
nightrider.com xieds for tuning ( $120)
and ness big sucker intake ($115)
while I was under warranty, I was prepared to put bike back to stock if going in for service ( which was not required)
mike
there are tuning solutions from $125 to $1000.
this can be a warranty killer- (some devices allow operation outside of designed parameters which can pooch the motor)
as above, the catalytic converter restricts flow and sound- if you "gut the cat" or swap header pipes to a non-cat style ( $100 vs $600)- you should also be aware that this violates the warranty- and if your State does inspections, you may be in trouble down the road for "tampering" ( 2010+ Federal regs).
just to be aware of..
you may just find that with a removed cat that the mufflers you already have ( 3 sets now?) work just right
so you open up the exhaust ( yay!), if you then open up the intake with any of the hiflow intakes, you will realize about 10% more power ( yay again).
hi flow intakes will cost anywhere from just over $100 to $300.
this is the "stage 1".
a stage 1 can cost anywhere from $600 DIY to $2000 dropping at the dealer and paying full boat for all they offer.
if sound is a rider's concern, go to a bike night and listen to what other guys use- make the correct choice the first time, not the 3rd or 4th
factor in whether you like the radio, if you like to ride 8 or 10 hours a day. or if you are just running around the neighborhood ( and if your neighbors have kids who go to bed at 8pm)
FWIW I have an 09 model with no cat in the headers, supertrapp/ screaming eagle nightstick mufflers with adjustable disks- these can be as loud or as quiet as I want- adjustable.( $200 used)
nightrider.com xieds for tuning ( $120)
and ness big sucker intake ($115)
while I was under warranty, I was prepared to put bike back to stock if going in for service ( which was not required)
mike
Last edited by mkguitar; Jul 13, 2013 at 11:01 AM.
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Yup, get rid of the cat & the heat! Go Vance & Hines Power Duals, and either Vance & Hines High Output slip-ons or Rush Big Louies with the 2.5 baffle. Both sound great. I've had 'em both on my 2011 Limited, but I have the High Outputs on now because they're a whole lot deeper and bassier. I think the Big Louies might be just a little louder if you go with the 2.5 baffle, but they're both a nice gutsy big bike sound. Go to a dealer on a nice Saturday morning & ask some Ultras to fire 'em up for you. (They will.) When you hear something you like, you'll say, "that's what I'm talkin' about, right there!"
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Give MGS a call
they have discounts for forum members and blemished systems.
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From: Moore, Oklahoma
Well, seeing as this is a brand-damn-new forum and we've never discussed this before.....
Call Fuel Moto and get yourself a new headpipe and a set of their mufflers. Or a set of Fatshotz (which are the goddamn shiznit).
Or hey, just take a drill to your stock head pipe, totally screw it up, and slap whatever mufflers make it the loudest.
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Yes, in fact, I'm sick of these threads.
Call Fuel Moto and get yourself a new headpipe and a set of their mufflers. Or a set of Fatshotz (which are the goddamn shiznit).
Or hey, just take a drill to your stock head pipe, totally screw it up, and slap whatever mufflers make it the loudest.
FREEBIRD!
Yes, in fact, I'm sick of these threads.
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From: Orange County
What device costs $125?
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From: Muncy, Pa
I'm really thinking about the V&H Big Radius 2 into 2 pipes. I'm getting conflicting suggestions from different dealers in the are. Should I get or do I need a tuner and air flow kit if I put these pipes on? Thanks all.
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From: 'Noke, VA
The $5 worth of Radio Shack resistors that Nightrider sells as the XIEDs. They're not a tuning device, all they do is change the voltage reading from the O2 sensors to add a little fuel in the closed-loop part of the map.
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From: Muncy, Pa
Yup, get rid of the cat & the heat! Go Vance & Hines Power Duals, and either Vance & Hines High Output slip-ons or Rush Big Louies with the 2.5 baffle. Both sound great. I've had 'em both on my 2011 Limited, but I have the High Outputs on now because they're a whole lot deeper and bassier. I think the Big Louies might be just a little louder if you go with the 2.5 baffle, but they're both a nice gutsy big bike sound. Go to a dealer on a nice Saturday morning & ask some Ultras to fire 'em up for you. (They will.) When you hear something you like, you'll say, "that's what I'm talkin' about, right there!"
Great suggestion, thank you!