This sucks or blows
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This sucks or blows
So on my second evening go around with the yaffe bar install.
Cut off the outer stock sheave except 2 inches.
Got long shrink wrap. Cut off the green plug and soldered them.
went through no problems now.TBW first then the bigger one. Go to put the tbw back in and it now squeaks as you turn it.... To much lube must of got into the plastic part... What a pc of crap.. Sealed unit. Wonder how much this is going to be.
Would of paid 300 now for the install.... So off to dealer tomorrow.
Cut off the outer stock sheave except 2 inches.
Got long shrink wrap. Cut off the green plug and soldered them.
went through no problems now.TBW first then the bigger one. Go to put the tbw back in and it now squeaks as you turn it.... To much lube must of got into the plastic part... What a pc of crap.. Sealed unit. Wonder how much this is going to be.
Would of paid 300 now for the install.... So off to dealer tomorrow.
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pt 2.) soldered connections do not hold up well on motorcycles.
the wire strands tend to break where the tinning ends due to vibration.
the splices will work for a while...
mike
the wire strands tend to break where the tinning ends due to vibration.
the splices will work for a while...
mike
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You aint gonna be able to hear the squeak while you are puttin down the road, I would run it as is but thats just me. Here is a cheaper alternative than 300 bucks, you already know how to tear it apart.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-david...796048&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-david...796048&vxp=mtr
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so no soldering the wires? Hmm...well maybe some wire nuts would be better??
OMG the opinions that come out on the Forums..lol
Pretty soon someone will come on and say you get better tire life with no air in the tires.
I have it figured out now.I have to do my buddies bike next week.
The squeak is like a vibration in the grip. Like plastic running together.. to much lube got in it or something.
How much is one new.
If you want easy.
Use the weed wacker string.Right side pull seperate. The tbw first.
then the controls on right side . Remove the green plug and solder.
Heat shrink large wires with 1/2 heat shrink full length . Leave an inch of stock sheave at control.
I think we all try to think you can get it done with less work. But in the end you will struggle.
If I would of done what I learned . Would of been done the first night pulling the wires.
OMG the opinions that come out on the Forums..lol
Pretty soon someone will come on and say you get better tire life with no air in the tires.
I have it figured out now.I have to do my buddies bike next week.
The squeak is like a vibration in the grip. Like plastic running together.. to much lube got in it or something.
How much is one new.
If you want easy.
Use the weed wacker string.Right side pull seperate. The tbw first.
then the controls on right side . Remove the green plug and solder.
Heat shrink large wires with 1/2 heat shrink full length . Leave an inch of stock sheave at control.
I think we all try to think you can get it done with less work. But in the end you will struggle.
If I would of done what I learned . Would of been done the first night pulling the wires.
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I've soldered many connections, on many different installs. Yep, including the Yaffe bars too.
My trick is to cover each connection (where I remove as little insulation as possible) with marine grade heat shrink. It is adhesive lined, which provides a bit more peace of mind.
Hope you get it sorted.
My trick is to cover each connection (where I remove as little insulation as possible) with marine grade heat shrink. It is adhesive lined, which provides a bit more peace of mind.
Hope you get it sorted.
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I solder for a living.
after rewiring my CHP FXRP some years and having multiple wires break- at the solder joint...I learned from someone smarter than I about wiring harnesses.... and why OEMs use crimped connectors on harnesses. soldered PC boards seem to hold up better0 but I have seen a couple of taillight pc boards fail- these can often be fixed by resoldering the contacts/joints
I know how to use heatshrink and tubing to insulate, but structurally, the wire strands in a wire will flex most right where the tinning ends...and break one by one.
not the first day...but over time
Mike
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How many members who have soldered wires for their apes have had problems with the condition Mike is describing, I did a **** load of it with my apes and I don't like reading what Mike said about it?
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It is preferable to stagger the solder joints, heat shrink each joint then heat shrink the entire harness if possible. It looks better as well, not as if you can see the finished product installed in the bars but I know its right and that matters to me.
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No problems here on motorcycles, piston and turbine powered aircraft and helicopters, all of which vibrate, some excessively. 20+ years experience in the aviation field, I prefer a good solder joint over butt splices, even aviation quality splices. Just my 2 cents.
It is preferable to stagger the solder joints, heat shrink each joint then heat shrink the entire harness if possible. It looks better as well, not as if you can see the finished product installed in the bars but I know its right and that matters to me.
It is preferable to stagger the solder joints, heat shrink each joint then heat shrink the entire harness if possible. It looks better as well, not as if you can see the finished product installed in the bars but I know its right and that matters to me.
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Went to get my new throttle sensor 100.00 bucks.I got the longer one without the green connector.Came with new plug for fairing connection . no extension there. just had to cross reference the right wire in the plug.
Tbw wire first. it had heat shrink on it but not shrunk down. So a little heat and it and it shrunk up. Wheel bearing grease just a little.
And now. I bet. Soldering the wires and install of just the wires. Not rushed 2 hrs and back on the bike with connector plugs hanging there.
I believe the Notch in the end of the yaffe bars is a little tight for the tbw sensor. I had pushed the rotating end to hard and it was jambed. So a screw driver and a few taps at the base of the new sensor not pushing on rotating gear.
Fired it up just to see if everything works, All is good.
The brakes were no problem with a small vac pump.
clutch cables atached at the bars. Going to skip out of work early and attach at tranny. Ive replaced the leaking o ring here before so no worries.
Going to drain and replace my fork oil while I have the fairing apart. Also my antena under the fairing before it gets buttoned up.
Man..... allot of work. If your going to do this Pm someone. See if someone is near by. Allot of learning curve. I am very mechanically inclined but take your time. I could of saved allot of hours.
For as much as the bike cost new another 7 inches of wire sitting in the fairing would of been a great Idea. And a thumbs up to all HD owners. but hey they save prob a dollar worth of wire.
Tbw wire first. it had heat shrink on it but not shrunk down. So a little heat and it and it shrunk up. Wheel bearing grease just a little.
And now. I bet. Soldering the wires and install of just the wires. Not rushed 2 hrs and back on the bike with connector plugs hanging there.
I believe the Notch in the end of the yaffe bars is a little tight for the tbw sensor. I had pushed the rotating end to hard and it was jambed. So a screw driver and a few taps at the base of the new sensor not pushing on rotating gear.
Fired it up just to see if everything works, All is good.
The brakes were no problem with a small vac pump.
clutch cables atached at the bars. Going to skip out of work early and attach at tranny. Ive replaced the leaking o ring here before so no worries.
Going to drain and replace my fork oil while I have the fairing apart. Also my antena under the fairing before it gets buttoned up.
Man..... allot of work. If your going to do this Pm someone. See if someone is near by. Allot of learning curve. I am very mechanically inclined but take your time. I could of saved allot of hours.
For as much as the bike cost new another 7 inches of wire sitting in the fairing would of been a great Idea. And a thumbs up to all HD owners. but hey they save prob a dollar worth of wire.
Last edited by squaredaway; Aug 2, 2013 at 08:09 AM.