2014 liquid cooled vs. air cooled
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2014 liquid cooled vs. air cooled
Hi everyone!
I understood that the 2014 Ultra Limited and the Tri-Glide engines have been changed into liquid cooled instead of the classic air cooled. But these are 103 CI engines that must meet the EPA emissions regulations. How come only this two models have been changed and not all the models with 103 CI engines?
And my second question would be how come the new 110 CI Indian/Polaris engine has meet the EPA regulations without being necessary to be liquid cooled?
Very interested because when exporting to other countries that have no such emissions standards as EPA those two models shouldn't be equipped with new engines?
I understood that the 2014 Ultra Limited and the Tri-Glide engines have been changed into liquid cooled instead of the classic air cooled. But these are 103 CI engines that must meet the EPA emissions regulations. How come only this two models have been changed and not all the models with 103 CI engines?
And my second question would be how come the new 110 CI Indian/Polaris engine has meet the EPA regulations without being necessary to be liquid cooled?
Very interested because when exporting to other countries that have no such emissions standards as EPA those two models shouldn't be equipped with new engines?
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There are plenty of threads on HDF about these engines. The only part that is water cooled is the exhaust ports, the rest of the engine is probably indistinguishable from the previous engines. While Romania may not have any emissions regulations, no major International manufacturer is going to make vehicles that do not meet International regulations! Every new imported vehicle you see in Romania will comply with USA or European regulations.
Here in the UK our Harleys have quieter exhausts than in North America and it is likely you get the same International models. We also get amber side reflectors (not red at the rear) and a few other minor differences, which may equally apply in Romania.
So place your order with confidence! The new engines will become available across the range over the next year or two, at a dealer near you.
Here in the UK our Harleys have quieter exhausts than in North America and it is likely you get the same International models. We also get amber side reflectors (not red at the rear) and a few other minor differences, which may equally apply in Romania.
So place your order with confidence! The new engines will become available across the range over the next year or two, at a dealer near you.
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And to answer question #2.......who cares.
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I wonder if that's true. With the current setup, only bikes with lower fairings can be converted to the "twin cooled" system. So for the Road King (and if it moves beyond touring the bikes in the Softail, Dyna and Sportster classes that don't have them) does the MoCo add lower fairings (messing up the look of the bike) or add a traditional radiator (also messing up the look of the bike) or just leave them air cooled? I'm guessing they leave them alone.
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Take a look at a V-Rod, or any of the Jap customs! It can and will be done. The new engines are like the rubber mounts, EFI and other changes, being introduced steadily rather than across the range in one hit.
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look at how the bmw r 1200 gs did their water-cooling...bet the new road glide when re-introduced will have the radiator built in to the fairing and not require lowers. i like the idea of water-cooling and more stock horsepower--do not like the fairing lowers. i always liked the look of the EGC. that was a clean looking bike and very traditional looking...too bad it is no longer available.
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