stage 4 vs stage 2
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Tourer
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stage 4 vs stage 2
Have a 13 Street Glide stage 1 with SEPST. Got the bug and want more. Bang for the buck, go with the cam upgrade or go ahead with the stage 4? Cams would be 254's and will do the hydraulic cam tensioner as well with the cam upgrade. Dealer is saying stage 4 is the way to go.
Cruiser
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From: South Carolina
simple answer is a cam swap will reap the greatest return on investment. After that you experience diminishing returns but I will tell you it was worth it to me. When I installed my TW555 ($400 not including install labor) with a high flow A/C and thunder header I dyno'd at 101 Tq/89 hp. After upgrading to a 106" with head work ($1700 not including install labor) I dyno'd at 123 Tq/109 hp.
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Have a 13 Street Glide stage 1 with SEPST. Got the bug and want more. Bang for the buck, go with the cam upgrade or go ahead with the stage 4? Cams would be 254's and will do the hydraulic cam tensioner as well with the cam upgrade. Dealer is saying stage 4 is the way to go.
Tourer
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From: Western NY
I have wondered about the "more bang for the buck" question myself. I have been saving up for a stage 4 kit, wanting the torque. I'm not so sure anymore. Everybody is going to have their own answer to the issue of more torque on their bike. What is enough? When are you happy? When do the modifications start meaning less reliability? Sometimes these forums just make me ask more and more questions. I think for myself, I decided (for now) to just ride the hell out of my bike, it goes fast enough to get me a ticket already. Haha.
I do want to follow this thread and see what people think about cams vs stage 4
I do want to follow this thread and see what people think about cams vs stage 4
Road Warrior
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I paid $1,000 for my 255s and install - and that was a special. If I had it to do over, I'd buy the 107 kit from Fuel Moto and pay someone to instal it. Probably be in it for $2500 when it's all said and done, but you'll make some nice numbers - check out their dynos on their website.
Road Warrior
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Have a 13 Street Glide stage 1 with SEPST. Got the bug and want more. Bang for the buck, go with the cam upgrade or go ahead with the stage 4? Cams would be 254's and will do the hydraulic cam tensioner as well with the cam upgrade. Dealer is saying stage 4 is the way to go.
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Cruiser
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I paid $1,000 for my 255s and install - and that was a special. If I had it to do over, I'd buy the 107 kit from Fuel Moto and pay someone to instal it. Probably be in it for $2500 when it's all said and done, but you'll make some nice numbers - check out their dynos on their website.
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Road Warrior
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From: Monroe, Louisiana
Did you just install cams or do the stage IV. that looks like stage IV numbers. If not stage IV did you use stock springs? Not wanting to start a fuss just wondering if you can use stock springs with the 259E. Every one I have seen used the Stage IV kit. I was thinking of putting them in 2010 FLHTK with stock springs if possible.
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Most Stage 2 103s (A/C+exhaust with254s) get around 100tq and 90hp. Stage 4 should be around 115HP & Tq. Up to you whether the difference is worth the extra $2K or so?? Of course ya can do better $ & power getting away from SE parts.