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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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Ok, so I put on the Jackpot header pipe from Fuel Moto on my 13 ultra CVO. After that I was getting a lil popping on decal. So I decided to get the Power Commander 5 from them as well. THey programmed the unit before shipment. It seems twice as strong as stock, but it has cut off a few times and getting major popping on decel. Im thinking it may have an exhaust leak, but don't think that would be causing it to cutoff at idle like it has been doing today. I don't hear an exhaust leak, it just think I may not have gotten the gasket and the crossover pipe right. Should I contact FuelMoto? or y'all think its exhaust leak related or both?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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Decel popping has been "intake" related in my admittedly small world. HTH.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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It's probably the tune, but to ensure that there is no fault on your end I would remove the header, and re-install it using all new components. Use the OEM gaskets, not the SE exhausts port gaskets. Also new clamps everywhere, and a new crossover gasket. I had to expand the under pipe to accept the new gasket so the jackpot would slip in easy. It needs to be expanded to 1.75" or you are going to f-up that crossover gasket. Get all this squared away, then ride it again and see where you are.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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Quick way to check for exhaust leaks...get some thick leather gloves, fire bike up, use gloved hands to cover end of pipes. You'll hear the leaks (hissing & whistling). Having a 2nd person to plug the ends while you check leak area(s) is even better. Good luck!
 
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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i dont have a inch lb torque wrench and couldnt get it in there if I did. Lowers are in the way, did you remove yours or just use a wrench and estimate ?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fireman9170
i dont have a inch lb torque wrench and couldnt get it in there if I did. Lowers are in the way, did you remove yours or just use a wrench and estimate ?
Sure you can get in there. This is a harley, don't you know by now that everything on the damn thing gets in the way of what you need to fix or adjust? And no, you don't have to take the lowers off.

Go get yourself some wobble extensions and that will give you the angles you need for three of the 4 nuts. And you won't be working at extreme angles, so the torque applied will be close to accurate. Tractor supply has them, as does Sears.

1/4" extensions are all you need, you don't need 3/8" since the torque values are so low. But you should have 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2" wobbles in your tool box anyway.

The front top is easily accessible from the left front side of the bike. I use to struggle with it from the right side, trying to get around the lowers, etc. But now, I just go over to the left side and bam, there it is in plain view and accessible no problem.

You really need a good inch pound wrench to do this job. If you break off an exhaust port stud, then you have just ruined your day and you ain't going anywhere for a while. It just ain't worth it guessing at exhaust nut torque in this sensitive area. Lots chance it, but just as many break off studs and the others have leaks because they get conservative and do not get to the recommended torque value applied.

The right tools for the job. The CDI torque wrenches (made by Snap On) are good tools for the money. Calibrated at the factory and you get a cal sheet.
 
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thinking of contacting FuelMoto again, someone said they sell a crossover pipe too. That was never offered when I bought mine. That might help install go easier
 
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fireman9170
thinking of contacting FuelMoto again, someone said they sell a crossover pipe too. That was never offered when I bought mine. That might help install go easier
Yes it's a "newer" item. I think they are proud of it too.



Not sure though if you will get any more flow. The stock pipe is simply a 1.75" pipe that has been flattened a bit to allow more clearance under the bike and provide a little support for the left side muffler since there are no hangers between that oil pan hanger bracket and the muffler hanger bolts.
 
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