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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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Any time you trade in, you're bending over. Unless you sell privately, get what you want for it and run it through the dealer to get the tax break.
I have a 2012 and there is no way i'll be trading or selling for another few years. Maybe never. If i had a lemon, yes....but mine is good as gold with lots up upgrades. Few more things and i'll have the bike the way i want it.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 30glock
I was shocked to see how the value has sunk on our bikes due to the new 14's.
As stated by one dealer everything else is Irrelevant, trade in value Is at an all time low dealers want us to believe there is no market for older bikes.

He started by saying no one is coming through those doors to look at your 2012, every one want's a 2014, I won't be able to sell your bike at a profit and then he offers me 12k for my 2012 SG with 9000 miles and tons of upgrades.

I literally turned around and walked out, he chased me and said wait I can give you an extra 500.00 for your bike. Total 12.5 for my bike.
Inventory of 2014 is extremely low at this point and dealers will want to max their profit on a new model by selling the 14's for top dollar and low balling the trades. Those buyers that have to be the first with the latest offerings will pay the price. It is simply the economics of supply and demand. As more inventory becomes available, their pricing strategies will change to some degree.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron750
Good post. When I was looking at used bikes in Fall '10, I was getting discouraged. I slowly worked my way up to considering an 07 or 08, but then figured I might as well buy new. Luckily. in Jan '11 I found a garage
Queen 2003, with 2,090 miles which was a big savings over new. So that makes sense that late model used are hard to sell.
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 06:08 PM
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you should run and take his offer no matter what it is , I am surprised or pre 2014 air cooled bikes have survived the last 109 years , the new ones are nice and I like some of the updates but I like my old style to and will not be buying a new one any time soon
 
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 30glock
I was shocked to see how the value has sunk on our bikes due to the new 14's.
As stated by one dealer everything else is Irrelevant, trade in value Is at an all time low dealers want us to believe there is no market for older bikes.

He started by saying no one is coming through those doors to look at your 2012, every one want's a 2014, I won't be able to sell your bike at a profit and then he offers me 12k for my 2012 SG with 9000 miles and tons of upgrades.

I literally turned around and walked out, he chased me and said wait I can give you an extra 500.00 for your bike. Total 12.5 for my bike.
Dealers look specifically at the time right after model releases as a way to drastically improve their margins by pouncing on people's need to 'I gotta have the latest/greatest'. If you can wait a few months I'd expect the used HD market to normalize and bounce right back, unless dealers are oversold on '14s, then def go the private party route.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by skratch
actually it isn't. there is a new cam, a new compensator (again), a completely new front end (bigger forks, different steering head), and i'm sure there's more.

what would you consider a 'new' bike? i like the fact that many parts that work on 2009 also work on my 2013. there are a lot of parts that will not work on the 2014.
+ lighter weight high performance pistons.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete6114
Any time you trade in, you're bending over. Unless you sell privately, get what you want for it and run it through the dealer to get the tax break.
I have a 2012 and there is no way i'll be trading or selling for another few years. Maybe never. If i had a lemon, yes....but mine is good as gold with lots up upgrades. Few more things and i'll have the bike the way i want it.
Pete, I respectfully disagree. I didn't bend over when my dealer gave me a $1,000.00 discount on a new 13 Ultra Limited, then gave me $19,000.00 for my 11 Limited with 44,000+ miles - as a matter of fact, I jumped for joy!! This was at Abernathys in Union City. Four Rivers in Paducah KY priced me at full list price, less $16,000. Now THAT was asking me to bend over!!
 
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 08:31 PM
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Most of the 2014 changes are cosmetic, with the exception of the few models which will have the twin cooling. I'm sticking with my 2013, I don't believe the cosmetic changes to the 2014 SG's are worth the price.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rootro
Most of the 2014 changes are cosmetic, with the exception of the few models which will have the twin cooling. I'm sticking with my 2013, I don't believe the cosmetic changes to the 2014 SG's are worth the price.
They are if you dont have a 13...
 
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by skypilot787
They are if you dont have a 13...
That is a good point. But they would need to make some serious mechanical upgrades for me to purchase a new model. I don't get too excited over cosmetic stuff. As one of the previous posters stated, it really isn't a new bike if they only change bolts and levers, these are small upgrades that should occur from year to year. Other than the 103 engine and mirror relocation, the SG has not changed a whole lot in several years.
 
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