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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by '05Train
If it's only pinging when you jump on the throttle, start by adding a little fuel to the accel enrichment. If that doesn't do it, you'll need to log a run to see exactly where the detonation is occurring, and how much timing is being pulled.

DFW the VE tables, and don't start yanking 6-8 degrees of timing.
Adding to the acceleration enrichment may fix a ping, but will cause problems with off idle response with after market cams. Been there done that. They will ususally respond better if you reduce the enrichment. His is not pinging from acceleration. It is in cruise. I have seen several bikes with this identical problem. It is usually always on modified with exhaust and cams that give the trouble. The after market canned maps change or omitt the temp sensitive timing retard tables that take care of the heat related ping.
Attached is the area of timing that he has the ping in his current map and the modified map to fix the ping. I am blaming the quality of the fuel and the heat on this one plus the temp/timing table issue. This is the same map that is on every touring harley I have looked at and most have had the ping issue. It is not difficult to tell where the problem is. The reason the 45 degrees doesn't ping in the 3500 up area is you won't be in that area cruising. At 3000 rpms cruising you will be around 50 to 60 kpa load. Above that rpm in cruise you will be at 70 plus kpa and the timing is lower there. When accelerating and shifting in this rpm area you are in the 80 to 100 load area with much lower timing.
I have looked at the new 2014 maps and they have reduced the timing in that area on the SEPST maps. I haven't seen the stock map that comes on the 2014 bikes yet.
 
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