SE Street Performance Tuner??
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2010
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From: wet coast BC
First you need to decide if you DIY or get someone to tune for you. for DIY pick the one you feel most comfortable with. for someone to do it for you, they pick the one you should have.
Tourer
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Cypress, Texas
The Street Tuner gets a bad rap simply because the people talking about it have not spent the time with it to get a good tune or have no real experience with it. They are repeating what they have heard, not what they have done. No the AFR is not adjustable on the Street Tuner like it is on the Super tuner but if your just doing a stage 1 you don't need the Super tuner. You are only tuning the closed loop section of the map anyway so if you are in the 14:3 to 14:4 who cares. Is it lean, sure it is. But it is not as lean as the popular Power Vision which is set to run at 14:5 with the economy tune. I have been using the Street Tuner and have great results. The bike still gets 42 mpg with the stage 1 tune. I don't need the last 2 hp left on the table from not using the Super tuner. I don't give a **** about that tiny difference. I want a bike that runs smooth and clean without any problems. Load the Street Tuner then perform several Smart tunes on the street in the real world and the bike will run great. If you need to see what a dyno can do then roll up on one and do the Smart tune directly on the dyno.
Cruiser
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 153
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From: western mass.
The Street Tuner gets a bad rap simply because the people talking about it have not spent the time with it to get a good tune or have no real experience with it. They are repeating what they have heard, not what they have done. No the AFR is not adjustable on the Street Tuner like it is on the Super tuner but if your just doing a stage 1 you don't need the Super tuner. You are only tuning the closed loop section of the map anyway so if you are in the 14:3 to 14:4 who cares. Is it lean, sure it is. But it is not as lean as the popular Power Vision which is set to run at 14:5 with the economy tune. I have been using the Street Tuner and have great results. The bike still gets 42 mpg with the stage 1 tune. I don't need the last 2 hp left on the table from not using the Super tuner. I don't give a **** about that tiny difference. I want a bike that runs smooth and clean without any problems. Load the Street Tuner then perform several Smart tunes on the street in the real world and the bike will run great. If you need to see what a dyno can do then roll up on one and do the Smart tune directly on the dyno.
I think this is a very underrated tuner that deserves a lot more respect than it gets. The savings of a few hundred dollars spent for dynos and another tuner is also certainly a big plus. Street Tuner gets my vote for sure.
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2009
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From: The Great River Road, Wisconsin
I really like my Street Tuner also and if you can get it for 20% off like I did it is even a better deal. I have a 2010 FLHTK, stage 1, Fuel Moto ceramic 2/1/2 SE air filter, SE Slip ons. No issues bike runs great , gets decent mileage and has plenty of pep. I can even put in SE cams if I like (no need though for me) download maps and tune for those.
I think this is a very underrated tuner that deserves a lot more respect than it gets. The savings of a few hundred dollars spent for dynos and another tuner is also certainly a big plus. Street Tuner gets my vote for sure.
I think this is a very underrated tuner that deserves a lot more respect than it gets. The savings of a few hundred dollars spent for dynos and another tuner is also certainly a big plus. Street Tuner gets my vote for sure.
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: Central Texas
owner your self. HD wants to SELL you a new tuner, so why cheat
there selves out of a sale by giving you something for free?
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2009
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From: The Great River Road, Wisconsin
You bet, when I traded my Dyna in I kept my SEPST. They knew I had one for I told them and didn't even ask any more about it. They see a sale versus providing something for nothing.
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From: wet coast BC
We have had
1) stock tune which no one has seen
2) stock tune with added fuel (fueler)
3) Flash tuners restricted to the operators ability
4) Dyno tune
Enter new generation, we have
1) stock tune
2) stock tune with added fuel (fueler)
3) Flash tuner within EPA restricted regulation
4) Flash tuners restricted to the operators ability
5) Dyno tune
am I missing anything?
This is my thinking of the ability of each in order of a better tune. The street tuner works the same as the pro tuner up to a point. The pro tuner has the ability to go forward from there. If you are happy with the result of the street tuner then go for it. If you will never ever get the itch to go past the street tuner go for it. If the only thing you are looking at is saving $200 between the two, go for it.
We all have a point of satisfaction to reach, once there that is all that matters.
by the way what oil do you use with a street tuner?
1) stock tune which no one has seen
2) stock tune with added fuel (fueler)
3) Flash tuners restricted to the operators ability
4) Dyno tune
Enter new generation, we have
1) stock tune
2) stock tune with added fuel (fueler)
3) Flash tuner within EPA restricted regulation
4) Flash tuners restricted to the operators ability
5) Dyno tune
am I missing anything?
This is my thinking of the ability of each in order of a better tune. The street tuner works the same as the pro tuner up to a point. The pro tuner has the ability to go forward from there. If you are happy with the result of the street tuner then go for it. If you will never ever get the itch to go past the street tuner go for it. If the only thing you are looking at is saving $200 between the two, go for it.
We all have a point of satisfaction to reach, once there that is all that matters.
by the way what oil do you use with a street tuner?
Cruiser
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 153
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From: western mass.
It just keeps one in the EPA realm, and many of us want to get as far away from that as possible. It is a very restricted tuner in what it's capabilities are. You can't adjust anything outside the EPA's specs, and many choose to do that. A big issue is you spend a little over 1/2 to get 1/2 way there, why not just put another $200 with it then the sky becomes the limit, not some government agency.
I have had PC-V in the past , and also Revolution Performance, so have a little bit of familiarity with other tuners. I think this is the best bang for the buck .Do not feel at all I only got half way there. What I think I got was enough of a cost savings to enable me to purchase FM ceramic coated head pipes, (600.00) made the bike run much cooler and more efficient . Just about the difference in cost of a Dyno and another type of tuner.
I am happy with where my " sky limit " is.
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Road Warrior
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,537
Likes: 4
From: The Great River Road, Wisconsin
My Street Tuner cruising AFR is 14.4 to 14.3, just where I want it for mileage. Above 2000 RPM when I whack the throttle it increases in increments up to 12.5 wide open. The higher the RPM relative to throttle position the sooner the max AFR of 12.5 is reached. I have no problem with that and do not care about a govt. agency. You should check out some of the maps available, might surprise you .
I have had PC-V in the past , and also Revolution Performance, so have a little bit of familiarity with other tuners. I think this is the best bang for the buck .Do not feel at all I only got half way there. What I think I got was enough of a cost savings to enable me to purchase FM ceramic coated head pipes, (600.00) made the bike run much cooler and more efficient . Just about the difference in cost of a Dyno and another type of tuner.
I am happy with where my " sky limit " is.
I have had PC-V in the past , and also Revolution Performance, so have a little bit of familiarity with other tuners. I think this is the best bang for the buck .Do not feel at all I only got half way there. What I think I got was enough of a cost savings to enable me to purchase FM ceramic coated head pipes, (600.00) made the bike run much cooler and more efficient . Just about the difference in cost of a Dyno and another type of tuner.
I am happy with where my " sky limit " is.
Kudos, glad you are there.
My Street Tuner cruising AFR is 14.4 to 14.3, just where I want it for mileage. Above 2000 RPM when I whack the throttle it increases in increments up to 12.5 wide open. The higher the RPM relative to throttle position the sooner the max AFR of 12.5 is reached. I have no problem with that and do not care about a govt. agency. You should check out some of the maps available, might surprise you .
I have had PC-V in the past , and also Revolution Performance, so have a little bit of familiarity with other tuners. I think this is the best bang for the buck .Do not feel at all I only got half way there. What I think I got was enough of a cost savings to enable me to purchase FM ceramic coated head pipes, (600.00) made the bike run much cooler and more efficient . Just about the difference in cost of a Dyno and another type of tuner.
I am happy with where my " sky limit " is.
I have had PC-V in the past , and also Revolution Performance, so have a little bit of familiarity with other tuners. I think this is the best bang for the buck .Do not feel at all I only got half way there. What I think I got was enough of a cost savings to enable me to purchase FM ceramic coated head pipes, (600.00) made the bike run much cooler and more efficient . Just about the difference in cost of a Dyno and another type of tuner.
I am happy with where my " sky limit " is.