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HD Heated Jacket Liner...Dual or regular??? Whats the Diff?

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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammz
Yes, they both can run off 12vdc of the bike, however the dual source jacket can also run off a 12vdc lithium battery pack (sold separately).

http://www.harley-davidson.com/store...d-jacket-liner
Negative. They can BOTH be run off 12v lithium battery pack. Read the description(s). This is why I posted this thread.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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I think the best way to get the correct answer to your question is to send an email to support@gerbing.com or call them at 360.357.1110 Ext. 12. I talked to them a couple of times before buying my gear and they were very helpful.
That might work. Gerbings website has changed & has a new product lineup. Their 2 jackets listed for motor sports show availability of Jan 15, 2014. One is a liner jacket & the other an exterior jacket. Neither are listed as dual source, although they do list multiple 12v battery accessories.

http://gerbing.com/collection.html#!...45&order=price
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MontyCop05
Negative. They can BOTH be run off 12v lithium battery pack. Read the description(s). This is why I posted this thread.
Well, while not in the online description, the HD dual source jacket has a carrying pocket for the 12v battery. The other one doesn't, therefore, while you can run it off the 12v battery, you'll have to figure out how to carry that battery with you. Is that the part of the puzzle you didn't understand?

BTW - I did thoroughly read the online descriptions & the the one says Dual control thermostat compatible to independently control temperature for the jacket and the heated gloves and the other one says Connects to the bike 12V electrical system or a 12V lithium rechargeable battery and that sir, is not the same thing!
 

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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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Whatever.

Get a dual controller, and consider the Powerlet Wireless one. I 3M Dual-Locked it to the bottom of the left-side hand control and it's awesome.
 
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Whatever.

Get a dual controller, and consider the Powerlet Wireless one. I 3M Dual-Locked it to the bottom of the left-side hand control and it's awesome.
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I'm considering getting a wireless set. Powerlet the one you recommend, saw some other wireless ones on Revzilla? Just wondering if you have done your homework on these? I know powerlet is the one that comes up on most post.

Also were does the other part connect to? I'm assuming the jacket.

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TRAIN,

I'm considering getting a wireless set. Powerlet the one you recommend, saw some other wireless ones on Revzilla? Just wondering if you have done your homework on these? I know powerlet is the one that comes up on most post.

Also were does the other part connect to? I'm assuming the jacket.

TIA,

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Powerlet seems to be the current state of the art. I got it through Revzilla. The sending unit plugs into the jacket liner just like the wired version. I'm assuming it pairs like Bluetooth, but it eliminates all the blind fumbling with the wired controller, and there's no drilling required like with a permanent controller.
 
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Originally Posted by '05Train
Powerlet seems to be the current state of the art. I got it through Revzilla. The sending unit plugs into the jacket liner just like the wired version. I'm assuming it pairs like Bluetooth, but it eliminates all the blind fumbling with the wired controller, and there's no drilling required like with a permanent controller.
COOL!!!

Thanks for the quick response and snapping a photo.

What is the red plug coming from the sending unit for?



 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammz
Well, while not in the online description, the HD dual source jacket has a carrying pocket for the 12v battery. The other one doesn't, therefore, while you can run it off the 12v battery, you'll have to figure out how to carry that battery with you. Is that the part of the puzzle you didn't understand?

BTW - I did thoroughly read the online descriptions & the the one says Dual control thermostat compatible to independently control temperature for the jacket and the heated gloves and the other one says Connects to the bike 12V electrical system or a 12V lithium rechargeable battery and that sir, is not the same thing!
Upon rereading my reply I realize it may have sounded snide. Sorry for that, it wasn't my intention at all. I didn't know about the battery pocket, as you said it wasn't in the online description. That being said I have zero intention of ever running any heated gear off of the lithium batteries. I'll just be running a liner, gloves and maybe the insoles off the bike.

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Dual control thermostat compatible to independently control temperature for the jacket and the heated gloves
Thats what's so confusing...thats in the description for the regular one, but not the dual source version. I know the dual source has this feature as well, but what is the real difference between the two. Just the fabric??? What make one dual source and the other not? I want to know why the dual is $30 more. I think you may be right, and they're just advertising the dual source more towards the guy that will be using the batteries and the bike...
 
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MC5 -

I only know about the battery pocket because I actually examined the product in my dealership. I have an earlier version of the liner jacket that uses the SAE 2 wire connection and my version does not have dual controller capabilities for independent control of the gloves; they are directly connected to the jacket heating panels. To use my heated gloves & jacket liner with a dual controller, I have to use the independent Y harness that comes with the gloves, not the glove plugs on the jacket sleeves. I can't verify if the dual power source jacket has the later, separate glove circuit or the earlier, integrated circuit like my jacket has.

Because of the PITA with using the heated gloves with heated jacket, I very successfully used heated grips on my '07 Ultra & now on my '14 K with HD's Windshielder gloves. My heated gloves are now wired to my tractor & used in winter for snow plowing.

Add - The dual source seemed to have a "stiffer" construction in order to support the weight of the battery pocket.
 

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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 02:19 AM
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where does the heated gear plug into at on a motorcycle? I don't understand how it all gets hooked up
 
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