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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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That's why I had one on my first motorcycle....and never again since. Just something else to worry about. I just do what I can to keep it cool and not worry about it.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by big cahuna

I have to ask where the heat that is being blown off the motor goes? From the pictures shown here it looks like its blown right on the riders thigh. I would rather the motor be hot then my leg. And where did you come up with 250 degrees being deadly for conventional oil? Most conventional oil have flashpoints over 360 degrees.
Yup. It does but it doesn't bother me that much. If its real hot the radiant heat from the motor rises up. That bothered me more than the fans heat. The fans blow it left to right. The air is moving so it doesn't seem as hot... At least to me. Most of the time you are moving and you don't notice at all. If it bothers you, switch it off for a bit although I never found the need to.

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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho1
That's why I had one on my first motorcycle....and never again since. Just something else to worry about. I just do what I can to keep it cool and not worry about it.
OK. So to me that doesn't make sense. Do what you can to keep it cool IS what the fans are about. No maintenance. If they die then either replace or not. No worries.

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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVENRINO
My FCS is OTW from Jason.
+1 Jason's set up works awesome. I never turn my fans off!

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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by big cahuna
I have to ask where the heat that is being blown off the motor goes? From the pictures shown here it looks like its blown right on the riders thigh. I would rather the motor be hot then my leg. And where did you come up with 250 degrees being deadly for conventional oil? Most conventional oil have flashpoints over 360 degrees.
I concur.

But what does the flashpoint have to do with anything? Flashpoint is the lowest temperature at which a vapor above a liquid will ignite when a flame is applied under standard conditions, not the point at which it will spontaneously ignite.

The flashpoint of gasoline is -45°F. 45 BELOW zero.

Mobil1 is 435°F.






And for the record, I have never had a problem with oil temperature.

Know why?

I've never had an oil temperature gauge.

 
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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Fact: HD tests it's engines at the Chrysler Proving grounds in the Arizona desert

They idle them for 24hrs . Always passes the tests.

It is the riders that have varying degrees of tolerance. Doesn't bother some and drives others insane from the heat.

Now back to the fan. It only aids cooling while you are idling. At road speeds the passing air is more powerful than the fan. That is when an oil cooler aids the motor temps.

So do both. When idling fan on. Down the road oil cooler.

I ride 30K a year. Rarely is the bike at idle. Do you ride or sit around listening to the engine?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ynots
An oil cooler without any air moving thru it is still going to get hot, same thing for the jugs. Id be curious to know which fan cooler would yield the best results
My bike's set-up is listed below. Stock motor with FuelMoto and Stage One. I have the Jagg 10-row and the FCS fans. With all this combined I'm running 30 degrees cooler on oil temp on average and have never exceeded about 245* even in the most extreme stop n go/summer heat. In fact under those extreme heat/stop n go conditions I'd probably be running 40* hotter than the 245* that I did.

Under normal temps I never exceed 210-220* on a long freeway run on an 80* day.

The single most efficient factor is by far the FCS fans. The oil cooler would be next. Stage One helps a bit but those two things dominate in the cooling equation.
 

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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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I run the Reefer twin fan assisted oil cooler and have a little green light that comes on when the fans for the oil cooler comes on. Whenever the green light comes on I then switch on my LaNale cylinder head fan. When light goes off I switch off the CHF. I also run Mobil 1 20w50 v-twin oil and have the PC5 set rich with no CAT and straight thru 2 1/4" slipon, also have an 1 1/2" tank lift. And to back all that up is the factory EITMS.
 

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Originally Posted by SafetyMan
And for the record, I have never had a problem with oil temperature.

Know why?

I've never had an oil temperature gauge.

Sage advice. I change my synthetic oil every 5,000 miles. Couldn't care any less how hot the bike runs. Something bad happens, I have a warranty.

People are getting rich scaring Harley owners into thinking their bikes are going to melt. Harley sells bikes in the Arizona desert with a 2-year, unlimited-mile warranty. They don't change the ECM programming, nor do they add fans, nor do they reduce the oil change intervals.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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I have an OILBUD (no fan on it) and it seams to be very effective on hot days. I also have a parade fan which only works at short stops after I turn my engine off for a few minutes.
 
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