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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 12:35 AM
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I have gloves (hd the only ones I could find that day in stock) and vest. I'm cold natured and with chaps I'm good with the settings on low med. in 38 40 deg f. hd gloves only have one setting. wide open. so I have to turn them off sometimes.
kroozeabout. ...you won't be sorry. oh and if I remember right they will interchange, plugs are all the same.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 06:57 AM
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Check out Warm n Safe before spending money on other products.

I wear a Warm n Safe jacket liner under a TGP Rainier jacket and glove liners in insulated gloves using a wireless dual remote. Quality gear and technology, wonderful customer support - you can talk to Mike the owner. They take trade-ins as well. I have ridden hundreds of miles in 40 F temps nice n toasty. Toe warmers in the boots, long underwear, my regular riding pants under my quality rain pants. I think chaps are more fad than function any time.

Being cold is very dangerous as it takes your mind away from paying attention and you crash. Warm is Safe. Life changes forever in a bad way when you crash.

Any brand of quality gear is not inexpensive. Riding in the cold should not be taken lightly.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 07:29 AM
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It's been my experience that when riding in cold weather, and I am talking about temps below 40 and sustained riding at these temps with occasional precipitation, you have to wear the appropriate outer gear. Forget about looking cool or fitting into the HD look.

My approach is not letting the cold air penetrate the first layer. There are plenty of ballistic nylon, Carbolex, 500-600 Denier Cordura Gortex, and other materials that will prevent wind chill and rain from penetrating to your lower layers. Do the research. But understand that the right gear is not jeans, chaps, and a leather jacket. And the best gear is not cheap.

Lots of manufacturers such as Tourmaster, Courtech, Olympia, Aerostich, etc., make gear for serious cold weather/wet weather riders. If you get the right outer gear, you won't really need all the "heated" vests and liners.

So….staying warm or looking cool? I choose warm every time.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ADVNTR
Being cold is very dangerous as it takes your mind away from paying attention and you crash. Warm is Safe. Life changes forever in a bad way when you crash.

Any brand of quality gear is not inexpensive. Riding in the cold should not be taken lightly.
well said advntr
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowcountry Joe
It's been my experience that when riding in cold weather, and I am talking about temps below 40 and sustained riding at these temps with occasional precipitation, you have to wear the appropriate outer gear. Forget about looking cool or fitting into the HD look.

My approach is not letting the cold air penetrate the first layer. There are plenty of ballistic nylon, Carbolex, 500-600 Denier Cordura Gortex, and other materials that will prevent wind chill and rain from penetrating to your lower layers. Do the research. But understand that the right gear is not jeans, chaps, and a leather jacket. And the best gear is not cheap.

Lots of manufacturers such as Tourmaster, Courtech, Olympia, Aerostich, etc., make gear for serious cold weather/wet weather riders. If you get the right outer gear, you won't really need all the "heated" vests and liners.

So….staying warm or looking cool? I choose warm every time.
If the 40s are what you consider cold, then yes, you can absolutely do without heated gear and just use insulation. If you plan on riding for any amount of time in subfreezing temperatures, there's no better solution than electrics.

I will agree though that jeans and chaps are the last things you should be wearing when it's really cold.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by '05Train
If the 40s are what you consider cold, then yes, you can absolutely do without heated gear and just use insulation. If you plan on riding for any amount of time in subfreezing temperatures, there's no better solution than electrics.

I will agree though that jeans and chaps are the last things you should be wearing when it's really cold.

IF you read my post carefully, you will see that I said below 40, not in the forties. And yes when you start getting down below 25, then use whatever you have to stay warm.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowcountry Joe
IF you read my post carefully, you will see that I said below 40, not in the forties. And yes when you start getting down below 25, then use whatever you have to stay warm.
You did. There's a world of difference between 39 and 29 though.

I've got a closet full of good textile gear. There is no way I'd leave for a ride without my electrics below 50 degrees. I'll happily submit that I'm a sissy when it comes to being cold, so why screw around?

What the textiles are good at is keeping the wind off of me. That allows the insulation and the heated stuff to regulate my temperature. Leather's great, but it simply won't keep the wind off as well.....And if you get caught in a 35 degree rain? Textile's the shiznit.

Cold is about temperature, speed, time, and personal tolerance (to a point). Anyone can suffer through a 5 minute ride at 40mph at 30 degrees. You're asking for trouble doing an all-day ride in serious cold without serious gear.


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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 09:07 AM
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You did. There's a world of difference between 39 and 29 though.
Again, I said below 25, not between 39 and 29. I give up.

But, at the risk of being picked-apart and mis-read, I will simply say that there is some good cold weather stuff out there, most of which will not be found at the local HD shop.

The wind chill chart pretty much tells the story, a chilling story! Bundle up!!
 
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Anyone can ride in cold weather and most of us have done and some continue to do so, but to me its about enjoying the ride and to enjoy the ride I want to be warm and comfortable, I have layered up and ridden in freezing cold with snow on the ground, cant see the point in trying to prove anything to anyone at my age now.

Electric gear is the final answer for warmth, comfort on and off the bike.

Layer up walk around like the Michelin man and sweat your **** off in the shop or restaurant or simply unplug your gear and walk around in doors and dine comfortably as a normally dressed person would.

But if you have a choice to be warm and comfortable, or cold and stupid what would you choose?
 

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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 12:16 PM
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I want to be comfortable anytime. I put heated gear on anytime below 60, one of the features of the warm n safe brand is temp neutral so you don't overheat when it is warmer just turn it on when nec. I did a 3 day camping trip in oct when highs were 50 and lows in high 20's and the warmest time was out riding during the day with the heat on. Mike
 
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