YOU KNOW THE TYPE...
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RE: YOU KNOW THE TYPE...
ORIGINAL: nightglide
but now you changed the story, see in this case you are already walking and we have not made contact with you, and you are not our responsibility at this time. till we made contact with you.
ORIGINAL: bikergirl40
I consider myself a pretty law abiding citizen. I pay my taxes, I am courteous to other people, I abide by the law and I don't drink much as a rule. But, on occasion...yep, yoooo bet...I can tip a few. I live in a small town, and although hubby and I don't make a habit of it, we occasionally walk home for our local tavern...because we are slightly over the limit to drive....(if we are waaay over the limit ... we would opt to get a cab ... mostly because the limits of my bladder... but that is a whole serious ofother offencesI don't want to get into right now and after our bars close, there is often at least an hours wait for a cab... I live less than 20 minutes walk)Yes, we may be over the limit of what is considered intoxicated when it comes to driving ... but is there are limit for walking safely to a short destination?
Personally, I don't see the danger of walking home, slightly influenced. I would be mortified if I were arrested for something so unnecessary.
I consider myself a pretty law abiding citizen. I pay my taxes, I am courteous to other people, I abide by the law and I don't drink much as a rule. But, on occasion...yep, yoooo bet...I can tip a few. I live in a small town, and although hubby and I don't make a habit of it, we occasionally walk home for our local tavern...because we are slightly over the limit to drive....(if we are waaay over the limit ... we would opt to get a cab ... mostly because the limits of my bladder... but that is a whole serious ofother offencesI don't want to get into right now and after our bars close, there is often at least an hours wait for a cab... I live less than 20 minutes walk)Yes, we may be over the limit of what is considered intoxicated when it comes to driving ... but is there are limit for walking safely to a short destination?
Personally, I don't see the danger of walking home, slightly influenced. I would be mortified if I were arrested for something so unnecessary.
The only difference may be circumstance. Large numbers of people leave the bars and walk to their cars...hopefully with a designated driver ... OR ...One or two people walking down a residential street, 2 blocks from their home. Contact can be made at any given time.
Still doesn't change the fact thata passengeror just a pedestrian would be slightly under the influence. Contact can be made on either scenario. My question is: Does the same measurement of intoxication for driving apply toa passenger who may continue his/herway by foot. Is that even an option?
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RE: YOU KNOW THE TYPE...
ORIGINAL: ROLLNTIGER
So you stop someone and you and another Officer confront the individual. The partner uses excessive force and you witness it.Should you be blamed because youdidn't do anything?
ORIGINAL: Lil Truckr
Back in the days, I had a couple incidents where I was going to issue a simple warning until the passenger piped-up and cost the driver big time. I agree, learn to control your passengers. You can cuss me out, give me the finger or whatever as much as you want when I can't see or hear you, but do it when I can, and it'll cost you...
Back in the days, I had a couple incidents where I was going to issue a simple warning until the passenger piped-up and cost the driver big time. I agree, learn to control your passengers. You can cuss me out, give me the finger or whatever as much as you want when I can't see or hear you, but do it when I can, and it'll cost you...
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Flipping you the bird and talking crap doesn't necessarily give you the right to put him in jail? in ..wherever you are? ( I know it doesn't in Alabama, but it was enough to get my attention) Even if it didn't, I would definitely have a talk with said passenger about his waving/protesting technique. Then, you could just take the rope he is holding,and obviously wanting so deperately to wrap around his own neck,and hang him with it. I let plenty of people talk themselves into jail.
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RE: YOU KNOW THE TYPE...
ORIGINAL: bikergirl40
, I see the difference. The contact thing ... But contact can be made while walking down a street for what ever reason. Police check everybody out who is walking away from any downtownestablishment around closing time. I see they don't arrest everybody, and they are pretty much all under some sort of influence.
Still doesn't change the fact thata passengeror just a pedestrian would be slightly under the influence. Contact can be made on either scenario. My question is: Does the same measurement of intoxication for driving apply toa passenger who may continue his/herway by foot. Is that even an option?
, I see the difference. The contact thing ... But contact can be made while walking down a street for what ever reason. Police check everybody out who is walking away from any downtownestablishment around closing time. I see they don't arrest everybody, and they are pretty much all under some sort of influence.
Still doesn't change the fact thata passengeror just a pedestrian would be slightly under the influence. Contact can be made on either scenario. My question is: Does the same measurement of intoxication for driving apply toa passenger who may continue his/herway by foot. Is that even an option?
But as you see we have to defend our actions for everything… JUST READ all the THREADS above… if it comes down to MY *** or YOUR’s it is going to be MINE that I cover.
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RE: YOU KNOW THE TYPE...
ORIGINAL: nightglide
As I mentioned the word now days is LAW SUITS!!! Me taking you to jail for public intox will make it harder for you to win a lawsuit for anything. Now even if I make contact with you now you’re my responsibility. I make contact with you walking (and say in this case I don’t have my camera in the car taping the whole contact) you say you only had one beer, I think your not to intoxicated to make the 3 block walk. Some fool runs you over as you cross the street, YOU and your lawyer will be the first one down to sue me and the agency for allowing you to walk away after you tell me you only has a beer, now in court you telling a different story because your lawyers said you stand to make BIG $$$$$ if you say you were to intoxicated to walk away and it was my responsibility to take care of you after I made contact with you.
But as you see we have to defend our actions for everything… JUST READ all the THREADS above… if it comes down to MY *** or YOUR’s it is going to be MINE that I cover.
ORIGINAL: bikergirl40
, I see the difference. The contact thing ... But contact can be made while walking down a street for what ever reason. Police check everybody out who is walking away from any downtownestablishment around closing time. I see they don't arrest everybody, and they are pretty much all under some sort of influence.
Still doesn't change the fact thata passengeror just a pedestrian would be slightly under the influence. Contact can be made on either scenario. My question is: Does the same measurement of intoxication for driving apply toa passenger who may continue his/herway by foot. Is that even an option?
, I see the difference. The contact thing ... But contact can be made while walking down a street for what ever reason. Police check everybody out who is walking away from any downtownestablishment around closing time. I see they don't arrest everybody, and they are pretty much all under some sort of influence.
Still doesn't change the fact thata passengeror just a pedestrian would be slightly under the influence. Contact can be made on either scenario. My question is: Does the same measurement of intoxication for driving apply toa passenger who may continue his/herway by foot. Is that even an option?
But as you see we have to defend our actions for everything… JUST READ all the THREADS above… if it comes down to MY *** or YOUR’s it is going to be MINE that I cover.
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RE: YOU KNOW THE TYPE...
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As I mentioned the word now days is LAW SUITS!!! Me taking you to jail for public intox will make it harder for you to win a lawsuit for anything. Now even if I make contact with you now you’re my responsibility. I make contact with you walking (and say in this case I don’t have my camera in the car taping the whole contact) you say you only had one beer, I think your not to intoxicated to make the 3 block walk. Some fool runs you over as you cross the street, YOU and your lawyer will be the first one down to sue me and the agency for allowing you to walk away after you tell me you only has a beer, now in court you telling a different story because your lawyers said you stand to make BIG $$$$$ if you say you were to intoxicated to walk away and it was my responsibility to take care of you after I made contact with you.
But as you see we have to defend our actions for everything… JUST READ all the THREADS above… if it comes down to MY *** or YOUR’s it is going to be MINE that I cover.
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I think its sad that everyones feels that they have to cover there *** all the time for fear of getting sued. Here in Vegas the cops shoot first then cuff you (no really it happened). ONe kid was even shot in the back while cuffed he turned out to be a killer but there was a lawsuit NAACP circus and all. I think it would be better if we still settled things in the street at high noon. As far a being pulled over I always was told I was a pleasure to arrest cause I was yes sir no sir all the way. It is also you buddies and those you choose to hang around I left Dallas,TX and have totally turned my life around. I have not even been pulled over in years.
As I mentioned the word now days is LAW SUITS!!! Me taking you to jail for public intox will make it harder for you to win a lawsuit for anything. Now even if I make contact with you now you’re my responsibility. I make contact with you walking (and say in this case I don’t have my camera in the car taping the whole contact) you say you only had one beer, I think your not to intoxicated to make the 3 block walk. Some fool runs you over as you cross the street, YOU and your lawyer will be the first one down to sue me and the agency for allowing you to walk away after you tell me you only has a beer, now in court you telling a different story because your lawyers said you stand to make BIG $$$$$ if you say you were to intoxicated to walk away and it was my responsibility to take care of you after I made contact with you.
But as you see we have to defend our actions for everything… JUST READ all the THREADS above… if it comes down to MY *** or YOUR’s it is going to be MINE that I cover.
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I think its sad that everyones feels that they have to cover there *** all the time for fear of getting sued. Here in Vegas the cops shoot first then cuff you (no really it happened). ONe kid was even shot in the back while cuffed he turned out to be a killer but there was a lawsuit NAACP circus and all. I think it would be better if we still settled things in the street at high noon. As far a being pulled over I always was told I was a pleasure to arrest cause I was yes sir no sir all the way. It is also you buddies and those you choose to hang around I left Dallas,TX and have totally turned my life around. I have not even been pulled over in years.
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RE: YOU KNOW THE TYPE...
ORIGINAL: nightglide
No problem I like a good debate now and then. And I am not always right and some are not going to see our point if not walked in our shoes.
No problem I like a good debate now and then. And I am not always right and some are not going to see our point if not walked in our shoes.
LEOs are no different than any other smoe. They have families, they have problems, they put their boots on one at a time ... but they always have the upperhand ... a badge and a gun. Hard to argue with'em even ifthey are wrong ... entirely wrong... and handle a situation badly ... very badly. Nope, I wouldn't want your job for all the tea in china. Me and PMS are best buds, andme thinkssomeone would get really really hurt, just a little bit if'n I ever had the chance to carry a shooter. LOL
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RE: YOU KNOW THE TYPE...
This has gotten to deep for me. Its obvious that we have two sides. One side, us cops, dealing with the other side, law offenders, and neither the two shall meet...