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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Freebirdsride1
Keep in mined the more air that goes through the engine, the more nosier the engine makes. If you remove the cat and leave the rest of it stock she runs pretty good with out the heat. So if you like the way she sounds don't mess with it to much.
That's my two-bits worth.
To keep up with me you'll need to dump about three thousand or more.
As you learn more the more you'll spend.
Oh man, so you've got such a fast machine. What exactly have you done to your bike to make it so fast?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rsarno
Im sorry yes, i meant stage1 I would like true-duals i didnt realize it was available for my 14 RK. who makes the head pipe i need to buy? So with SE2 slips, TrueDuals, and factory airbox .. what tuner do i need? or do i just need a download? do i do it, or does dealer do it?
If yiu like true duals look at the Dragos true duals they sound great and the quality is top notch also (dragosbikeworks.com) then get an air cleaner, I like the S&S stealth , then a power vision from fuel moto. You will be good to go , as stated above it is worth it .
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rsarno
I am so overwhelmed with info and options, Im at the point where I just dont know what to even look up at this point. Hoping someone can help me out here.

SLIPS: I have SE2 slipons ready to go on

PIPE: I'd like a cat-free, does the brand matter? Or do i just get any factory pipe thats been gutted? Not interested in creating a race bike, just want heat and sound benefits.

AIRCLEANER: From what i read i will be ok leaving my factor airbox (can you confirm?) which is good because i really like the style of it.

TUNER: Do i NEED a tuner? If so, which one? Is it easy to put in or should i pay my dealer? Is it ok if i do the pipes myself and bring it there to just do the tuner, or will that void my warrantee or something. Very confused about the tuner ... or do i just need a D/L from the dealer? So confused.

Thanks all, hoping someone can dummy this down for me a bit.
Just call Fuelmoto and trust what they say. They can help you with every part of your stage 1. I have not seen anyone that was unhappy with their services.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:01 AM
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If you want the benefits of a 2:1 and the looks of 2:2, get a V&H X pipe. It's a good compromise between the 2. I seriously doubt you will "feel" any difference in performance.

Dummy pipes are for dummies.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:04 AM
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Or just take it to the dealer. They do stage 1 upgrades all the time.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:16 AM
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Took mine to the dealer. Dresser true duel head pipe, 4" rinehart slip ons, Screamin eagle stage one air cleaner and Screamin eagle super tuner pro and dyno tune. Awesome results. $2500
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jeff.georgalas
Oh man, so you've got such a fast machine. What exactly have you done to your bike to make it so fast?
Speed limit is still speed limit last I checked....There is nothing wrong with loud and fast, but we can be our own worst enemies.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rsarno
I am so overwhelmed with info and options, Im at the point where I just dont know what to even look up at this point...
First suggestion...loose the "stage whatever" lingo. As you can tell by some of the replies, there's a lot of different opinions as what constitutes any of the so-called stages.

All you really need to do is figure out what you're trying to accomplish. Yes, I know you said you are really confused but to claim such confusion puts you at the mercy of some just-barely-legal tricky marketing claims. Knowledge is your most valuable tool right now!

Slips...you have them so done with that part.

Pipe...a cat-less pipe will remove the heat generated by the cat. A cat-less pipe will do nothing for the heat generated by the motor.

Some report simply drilling out the cat has been successful for them...others have had problems. Don't know what camp you would be in going that route.

There are a few aftermarket manufacturers. Some have issues with rusting, fitment, and bung placement. True duals may decrease the back pressure and if it's decreased too much, you might have running issues...the motor needs a certain amount of back pressure to run properly. Again, you'll have to decide which one to purchase.

Air Cleaner...if you like the stock, stay stock. Some aftermarket units claim big increases in airflow. But remember, if your bike can only flow say 450 cfm's max, why do you "need" a fancy unit that's capable of flowing say 800 cfm's. Read between the lines and try not to get sucked into slick marketing advertising.

Tuner...no disrespect but this has been asked thousands of times. I think I've seen the same basic question more then 20 times just this past week but the answer is always the same. Tuners are another area that few really understand but are more then willing to give expert advice. Beware!

Yes, I can tune bikes. Yes, I understand the tuning process. Yes, I know the differences between simple plug 'n play devices and full tuning programs (and more importantly, what each can and cannot do). No, I don't give recommendations...some paying sponsors here complain very loudly when we speak negatively about their products. Yes, I have been "promised" banishment if I make additional similar comments.

If you're so confused on this one and you don't absolutely need to have the work done immediately, then step back, catch your breath, and begin to study the various options.

Until you're more knowledgeable with the subject of tuning, I'd suggest you hold off on any tuning decision until you can get a better handle on what will and will not get you to where you want to be.

Good luck!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 12:58 PM
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I'd say take a deep breath grab a couple of beers and put on your SE slipons and have your dealer flash for that.

Intakes are supposedly greatly improved on the 2014's so they will easily handle the Slipons

Go ride and ride and ride... Spend money of gas, food hotels.
Decide over the year what exactly you want to put on it.

As for me I purchased a freeflowing 2-1-2 exhaust of my picking a SE Ventilator Intake to get it breathing properly and then had the Stealer install a MOCO Cam/Tuner/HD Clutch kit that retained all factory warranty.
Sounds and run decent, looks good and no warranty concerns.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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I have slip-ons and a Stage 1 air filter. Installed a Fuelmoto tuner on my bike, couldn't have been easier. And the ride is so much better. Check their website out, you can order the tuner and they have it all ready for you to install and go.
 
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