Does anyone have an opinion on running these?

 

the ECM uses ion sensing to determine what is happening in the combustion chamber.
to accurately do this, the sparkplugs and wires need to be stock specification.

riders using "magic plugs" and even screamin eagle performance plugs have had drivebility problems and codes.


consider this when looking at "magic " products:

auto manufacturers HAVE to get the best mpg they can to meet CAFE standards and meet consumer demand.
they also need the highest practical horsepower ratings/ 0~60 times etc etc for advertising.

IF magic products gave them an edge if regards to either of these, they'd use them.

that kind of thinking is why my 2001 truck specs 5w-30 oil, and my 2013 car specs 0W-30, lighter oil, less resistance, more power and more MPG


Mike

 

, couldn't have said it better Mike. These products are nothing but Smoke & Mirrows!

 

You kicked the monkey cage on this one !! I got attacked when I posted about plugs and so did others when asking about the Screaming Eagle plugs.


If you want to try them just do it.

I bought the snake oil and tried a set of Pulstars and I do not give a crooked crap about what anyone says about these, in my bike I get easier starts, better MPG and maybe it runs a little better too. Expensive? yes. Embraced by the general public? Hell no. Do i believe the ones who say they did not work on their bikes? Yup I do.

The Manufacturer is concerned with meeting the minimum requirements cheap as possible and I doubt they are interested in us the consumer.

If they were why don't we have 100k platinum plugs in the bikes from factory in our HD bikes?? It has been standard in the GM vehicles for years and maybe others.

Because they cost more. It is not expected in the toy market to not have to replace plugs at shorter intervals so why put in a plug that hurts the bottom line. Plus maybe in our archaic outdated air cooled motor they see more abuse from higher CHTs ??

Sure the cheap stock ones work fine. But maybe the new fangled different ones work a little bit better ? My MPG did indeed increase so something is happening in the motor.
I have some work planned on my motor and once done I will take a couple rides on my summer loops with the snake oil and then swap back to cheap stock to verify there is any real difference.I have made some other changes since adding the plugs so my data from the stock plugs means nothing in a fair comparison now.

With the mentality of the caveman we would still have points for our ignition. It worked right ? All the cavemen beat the ground with their sticks when electronic ignition started becoming available but the forward thinkers with open minds tried the MSD boxes, Unilite distributors, split fires, Pertronics, ? conversions and such and we got more accurate hotter sparks and our cars were faster.

Geez remember when people thought synthetic oil was too slippery and caused bearing skid !! Oh man never use that junk it will toast your engine.

How about when belt drives first came out ?? The cavemen sure howled about them. A large reason why we have belts might be due to the good old EPA and their sound emission standards, chains are noisy.

You can go on and on about items that are the standard today but were new and different one time.

Same stuff with plugs.

I say if you want to try them then do it, see what happens.

 

Put one of those e3 plugs in my mower, it would barely run. went back to stock. No issues since.

 

electicity will always follow the path of least resistance,straight to ONE of the 3 grounding straps, so in the end its a regular plug,the spark will not divide into 3 arcs.

 

Lots of "snake oil" type products out there.
Most won't do any harm if you so choose to use one.
On the other hand, any perceived gain is usually only in the subconscious and the fact that you spent money on the product.
So, you want it to work.

 

Personally I use the stock HD spark plugs and they work fine. To contribute to the forum you could buy a set, put them in and report back to the group the results.

 

Statements like this can sure be true but on the other hand if you actually have accumulated some consistent data and figures and make one change or in this case 2 sparkplugs and your statistics or results or whatever changes you just cannot argue with that.

Some people will try a new thing just out of simple curiosity to see if it is real or not. Sometimes it is not and sometimes it is. But you will never know until you try. is a real improvement worth the venture.


If a item has a return policy what have you got to lose ?? It does not work as advertised or to your satisfaction you simply remove and return but at least you had the courage or gullibility to give it a whirl.

If you tried to tell that running 0-weight oil was good a few years ago they would have said you are nuts. How many people with new cars and OLD thinking change to 10-40 ???

Did anyone ever actually take an E3 plug and the stock plug when new, rig up a coil or plug the wires on and ground the electrode to actually OBSERVE if there is a difference ??? Electricity may follow the path of least resistance but the "experts" also said the world was flat, man could not fly,man cannot fly the speed of sound space is poison on and on that list could go.BUT brave pioneers TRIED something different.




Try a set of them it may be better than spending the same amount on a china t-shirt, or it might not.


The fact is Harley uses old spark plug technology, a simple single fat electrode, modern plugs are used in modern machines so I guess that is why these old plugs work in our even older engine design !!
If Harley was in it to provide us with the latest good stuff we would not get a fookin paper air filter !! Who has one of those snake oil cleanable better filtration and performing air filters on their bike! Does anyone remember when K&N filters were new on the market ?? I bet they were considered witchcraft !!


Think outside the box and be brave enough to try new things. I just do not get why people will embrace so many new things but spark plugs.

This is some funny stuff right here.

 

I changed out my stock plug wires for some blue Scott Performance plug wires on my SG. The quality was not and issue but I kept throwing codes and the bike ran like crap. I have the same plug wires on my carburated Softail and everything's fine. I put back on the ugly stock ones and the bike is fine.

Sometimes you gotta stay with the setup from the MoCo.