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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RollaMo
From experience. See below

Go sit on any bike (especially a V-Twin rubber mounted engine)
Sitting on the bike with the engine at idle and level ground so it will not roll.
No brakes applied and you can feel the engine vibrate a little, but not too much in the handle bars.

Now hold the front brake and that natural vibration will be magnified back up through the fork tubes to the handle bars and you will feel it much more.

Now since vibration and sound are very subjective, it is hard to say how much is too much.
I think someone mentioned already that if you have bad motor mounts, the vibration will be much more pronounced.
So, that is something that should be looked at.
But the fact is, you are going to feel this vibration much more with the front brake applied than with it off.
Just the way it is.

But one thing I am sure of, it is not the ABS causing it.




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You have had your ABS modulator go bad? That is the only experience that is applicable. I know all about the brake on vibes thing. He kept saying the vibes were different. Now he states the vibes go away when the abs fuse is pulled. When the HD ABS modulator goes bad there is no code present and weird things happen, like no brakes at all or super hard lever/pedal barely any brakes. I don't care what the manual says, you cannot trust the self test light thing on the abs system.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shooter5074
If it is indeed the ABS module malfunctioning, all the OP needs to do to test that theory is to apply the REAR brake while at idle. If it's the module, then either brake will make it vibrate. And BTW, a malfunctioning ABS module WILL throw a code.
No it does not always. If the valve is stuck it will NOT throw a code. You should read on it a bit.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
No it does not always. If the valve is stuck it will NOT throw a code. You should read on it a bit.

I remember when you said that ABS sucked, and that you could out perform ABS, because you're a racer. And that ABS was going to get people killed.

Now, you're an expert on ABS.


But that was before the HDF crash and the database reset..... unless of course your are a different qtRACER.

If you are not the original QTRACER, then I apologize.


If you are the original QTRACER, then........same crap..... different day
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shooter5074
I remember when you said that ABS sucked, and that you could out perform ABS, because you're a racer. And that ABS was going to get people killed.

Now, you're an expert on ABS.


But that was before the HDF crash and the database reset..... unless of course your are a different qtRACER.

If you are not the original QTRACER, then I apologize.


If you are the original QTRACER, then........same crap..... different day
Oh I am the same guy. And if then valve sticks in the modulator it won't throw a code. If for a moment you put your ego in check you might learn something. But I guess why would you go and do that now.
 
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Old May 1, 2014 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
Oh I am the same guy. And if then valve sticks in the modulator it won't throw a code. If for a moment you put your ego in check you might learn something. But I guess why would you go and do that now.
If it was indeed the ABS causing the "vibration", why did the OP never mention the tactile feedback to the brake lever, that would have happened? That would have been where the vibration would have happened. And it would have been where he noticed it, because it would be a very obvious feeling in his right hand.

A general high speed vibration instead of the normal pulse can be attributed to extra mass harmonics of the fairing/radio/gauges/wiring doing a feedback of the frequency. Handlebar height also changes the harmonics, as does engine rpm. As rpm changes the frequencies go through different levels of harmonics. Sometimes the frequency hits a destructive harmonic, where thing feel like they are going to shake things apart. At other times they hit an additive harmonic, where the perceived feeling is a buzz rather than a shake.

A stuck or malfunctioning valve, no matter what, would still give the tactile feedback to the lever....... and that was never mentioned by the OP.



EDIT:

I got called away just before finishing ...........................

And now the number one reason it isn't the ABS. (Pay attention QTRACER. You might even agree with this)


The bike was sitting still with the front brake applied .............. that means the little amber symbol on the gauge was flashing...........

Meaning?


The ABS is NOT active when the bike is sitting still.
 

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