PCV Map Advice Needed
Road Warrior
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From: Monroe, Louisiana
Hey thanks for the map. I'm very interested in the timing tables because I still occasionally have some pinging and hope that these may work that out. However the fuel tables in this map are remarkably different than anything I have run or even have seen on the dynojet site. Are you saying this is a good base map for the Autotune and then it do the work? I just don't want to run way lean and cause any residual motor issues.
Thanks again,
Dan
Thanks again,
Dan
Road Warrior
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From: Monroe, Louisiana
If it worked good, it took me 2 sleepless nights. If so so did it in hurry. If just plain bad, then it was a canned map.
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2010 Limited with some stuff
Road Warrior
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From: Monroe, Louisiana
Sent you another map to give you something to think about.
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Did the other map in a hurry. Here is another one that should be closer on the fuel tables. The ping is most likely from being too lean. Been running this timing map on lots of different combinations for couple of years now. It is from the combination of some TTS maps and SEPST maps and lots of logging runs with Power Vision. There is not much danger in it being too lean. The additional timing improves low end performance a lot, particuliarly with cams. The Autotune will also do a good job. The map I am attaching here has been run on 08 Touring except it was converted to the same software your 07 uses which is 108 and the 08-09 uses 299. You can change the 14 afr to 13.8 or 7 if you like. If the 14 runs too hot that would be the first thing to change. With the additional timing it isn't very likely to get too warm. More timing to a point the cooler it runs. Harley already has plenty of timing from about 2800 up is why you don't see much added above 3000. The 10 in the 2 column is due to Harley running extremely low timing there in the earlier models. The newer models have much better timing maps. You would only see an additional 2 degrees max on a 14 Limited map in the low idle areas. Hope you got your Autotune working. Just be leary of any very large lean changes around 15. By the way leaner is negative and rich is positive.
The Autotune is working fine, I saw trim values on both cylinders after my first run. So you're saying not to worry on the radical timing changes?
And thanks for your support!
Road Warrior
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From: Monroe, Louisiana
Been running these timing numbers on probably 50 bikes including mine for couple of years. Working fine. If you are concerned just run the canned maps. The map in some form or another is running on Stage 1 touring mostly, Stage 2's, and several stage 4's. The only one it won't work with is the 255 as they build so much low end compression it will ping. You can run without it on topend and it will do fine. Where you will notice it is lowend response and it will run hotter. Same map also works on dyna and softail. I do understand how you feel about it being so much different. I have had several of these maps dynotuned and not the first one of them changed anything on the timing.
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Been running these timing numbers on probably 50 bikes including mine for couple of years. Working fine. If you are concerned just run the canned maps. The map in some form or another is running on Stage 1 touring mostly, Stage 2's, and several stage 4's. The only one it won't work with is the 255 as they build so much low end compression it will ping. You can run without it on topend and it will do fine. Where you will notice it is lowend response and it will run hotter. Same map also works on dyna and softail. I do understand how you feel about it being so much different. I have had several of these maps dynotuned and not the first one of them changed anything on the timing.
Regarding the timing maps, I've no doubt you know what you're talking about. I will give it a try.
Thank you for your time and knowledge!
Dan
Last edited by danzio; Aug 19, 2014 at 04:36 PM.
