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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 06:37 AM
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For those with laced wheels, when/if you tink test your spokes, are you looking for an identical or very similar tone across all spokes or simply listening for a tone verses a thud?
I'm not having any issues, no vibrations or anything. I'm just curious about the procedure and what to listen for. When I tap my spokes, all give a tone albeit some ring higher than others and some ring on the lower end. It kind of makes sense in that, while truing the wheel, some spokes may require slightly more tension which would result in a higher tone.
 

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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 08:10 AM
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there will be diff since there are diff tensions
i know some aligners who swear by the process but they have years of experience. i use that method also to see if the wheel needs to be looked at.
why do commercial drivers carry a baton to check tires?
remember, spokes are dynamic and tensions are all over the place when in motion that is the beauty of spoke, wide deflection, reason they are used in baja.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bustert
there will be diff since there are diff tensions
i know some aligners who swear by the process but they have years of experience. i use that method also to see if the wheel needs to be looked at.
why do commercial drivers carry a baton to check tires?
remember, spokes are dynamic and tensions are all over the place when in motion that is the beauty of spoke, wide deflection, reason they are used in baja.
"why do commercial drivers carry a baton to check tires?" ... Mandatory in a "Daily Walk Around Inspection" on a school bus
 
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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 10:19 AM
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You said it right, listen for a tone, vs a thud. The tone will vary based on tension, the thud would be a loose/broken spoke.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bustert
there will be diff since there are diff tensions
i know some aligners who swear by the process but they have years of experience. i use that method also to see if the wheel needs to be looked at.
why do commercial drivers carry a baton to check tires?
remember, spokes are dynamic and tensions are all over the place when in motion that is the beauty of spoke, wide deflection, reason they are used in baja.
When I ran spokes I'd get the wheels up and drag a wrench along them doing the bounce/ tone bit. Takes a while but you learn it if one has the ear.


Takes an experienced ear but once you pay attention and can " feel " the tone differences it works well. Old millwrights can do torques checks on bolts by tapping the heads with hammers, very helpful skill when 60" in the air in a basket checking the under frame doing a travel crane PM.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2022 | 06:01 AM
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I use the "tink" method for checking spokes. No, they do not sound identical, but a loose spoke will have a distinctly dull tone and needs to be tightened up. If you're going to do this, remember that the tightening requires what you may initially think is loosening the spoke. "Lefty-loosey" of the adjustment is needed to increase tension. I also recommend a set of spoke adjustment wrenches which are a bit wider than normal open-ended wrenches (you can even get these at Walmart). I don't use a torque wrench, but simply tighten up a spoke until it "tinks" like the others.

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Motorcycle 9pc Spoke Wrench Set 5.4-6.8mm Motorbike Buckled Wheel - Walmart.com
 
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Old Nov 12, 2022 | 06:27 AM
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Good idea to put a dial indicator on the side of the rim also whenever you check. Keep and eye on it. For sure if you get the dead sounding one and give it a tweek.
 
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it takes two indicators to align the wheel, radial is just as important as axial.
the older manuals have the process written down, do not know about the newer ones. a lot of wheels will have offset which is set first.
tip: stay sober and have the wife handy as women are usually better at puzzles. always use spoke lube and baby tweaks as one effects the other.
extra caution is needed for stainless, gall one and you will be cutting it out.
 
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Originally Posted by bustert
it takes two indicators to align the wheel, radial is just as important as axial.
the older manuals have the process written down, do not know about the newer ones. a lot of wheels will have offset which is set first.
tip: stay sober and have the wife handy as women are usually better at puzzles. always use spoke lube and baby tweaks as one effects the other.
extra caution is needed for stainless, gall one and you will be cutting it out.
I agree. But if one uses two, you need the tire off for two.
If you happen two find one loose spoke, a slight tweek with and indicator on side should be fine.

If you have a bunch loose, one needs two indicators and the tire off.
 

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I have a good friend who has a dirt bike shop and is a wheel wizard ... You'd be amazed to watch him in action
 
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