Infotainment Navigation Question
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From: Canadian Lakes MI and Jackson MO
This is the problem I have with BaseCrap, there's no way it should be so difficult as to take 1/2 a day to explain it to anyone, except maybe a politician. There's no reason it should be that difficult. Ride Planner is all 99% of people will ever need.
No matter which software you use, keep the number of way points to a minimum. Why?? Because once again the engineers have their head up their *** and can't write program that makes sense. If you've got a start and stop point 500 miles apart on a 4 lane road, why would you want a way point 3/8 of a mile down a gravel road. Why wouldn't the program ask "do you really want to leave your main road??"
No matter which software you use, keep the number of way points to a minimum. Why?? Because once again the engineers have their head up their *** and can't write program that makes sense. If you've got a start and stop point 500 miles apart on a 4 lane road, why would you want a way point 3/8 of a mile down a gravel road. Why wouldn't the program ask "do you really want to leave your main road??"
You may never do a ride like this in a region of the country a thousand miles from where you live and the roads you know by heart, but I do this kind of riding all the time and all over North America, Canada and Mexico included.
Jim Puckett
Midland MI and Jackson MO
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From: Acton, CA
... After you have the detailed maps installed on your PC, you no longer need to have any Garmin GPS plugged into your PC.
Identify wanted/needed waypoint locations in BaseCamp or Google Maps and make an individual waypoint for each. Then build routes (aka trips) using a maximum of nine (9) waypoints for an individual trip (or trip segment). This is a Harley Infotainment constraint; not a Garmin or BaseCamp constraint.
So if I have a trip that needs 99 waypoints to keep me on the specific roads of my choice, I have to build 11 separate trips, which I name 1, 2, 3, ..., 11 so that they sort in the order of my planned total adventure.
Jim Puckett
Midland MI and Jackson MO
Identify wanted/needed waypoint locations in BaseCamp or Google Maps and make an individual waypoint for each. Then build routes (aka trips) using a maximum of nine (9) waypoints for an individual trip (or trip segment). This is a Harley Infotainment constraint; not a Garmin or BaseCamp constraint.
So if I have a trip that needs 99 waypoints to keep me on the specific roads of my choice, I have to build 11 separate trips, which I name 1, 2, 3, ..., 11 so that they sort in the order of my planned total adventure.
Jim Puckett
Midland MI and Jackson MO
Last edited by caberto; Jun 25, 2015 at 10:22 AM.
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From: Acton, CA
This is the problem I have with BaseCrap, there's no way it should be so difficult as to take 1/2 a day to explain it to anyone, except maybe a politician. There's no reason it should be that difficult. Ride Planner is all 99% of people will ever need.
No matter which software you use, keep the number of way points to a minimum. Why?? Because once again the engineers have their head up their *** and can't write program that makes sense. If you've got a start and stop point 500 miles apart on a 4 lane road, why would you want a way point 3/8 of a mile down a gravel road. Why wouldn't the program ask "do you really want to leave your main road??"
No matter which software you use, keep the number of way points to a minimum. Why?? Because once again the engineers have their head up their *** and can't write program that makes sense. If you've got a start and stop point 500 miles apart on a 4 lane road, why would you want a way point 3/8 of a mile down a gravel road. Why wouldn't the program ask "do you really want to leave your main road??"
I always use enough waypoints to make sure the route I want will be followed, I think the more the better, that way it's clear as to what route you want to take regardless of what system you use. It always works for me.
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From: Michigan
So if I have a trip that needs 99 waypoints to keep me on the specific roads of my choice, I have to build 11 separate trips, which I name 1, 2, 3, ..., 11 so that they sort in the order of my planned total adventure.
Picking up my first ever Harley this afternoon at Great Lakes Harley Davidson in Bay City, Michigan. I went over yesterday and updated the Harley Infotainment Navigation GPS firmware to the current version 1.19.0.
Jim Puckett
Midland MI and Jackson MO
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From: East Iowa
Let me know when you get Ride Planner to follow on the incredibly cool ride that I have ridden twice in the past 10 years. This route (see attached "Canadian Border to Albany NY.gpx.zip" file, which must be unzipped to get to the "gpx" file inside) requires many "shaping points" to get BaseCamp to stay on the right roads that make this such a spectacular ride. You flat can't get (or even force) Ride Planner to route this exact set of roads without doubling back several times adding big miles.
You may never do a ride like this in a region of the country a thousand miles from where you live and the roads you know by heart, but I do this kind of riding all the time and all over North America, Canada and Mexico included.
Jim Puckett
Midland MI and Jackson MO
You may never do a ride like this in a region of the country a thousand miles from where you live and the roads you know by heart, but I do this kind of riding all the time and all over North America, Canada and Mexico included.
Jim Puckett
Midland MI and Jackson MO
Next question...
I have a new HD bike with on-board navigation. I can download Base Camp, but from what I understand I have to have a separate Garmin GPS to connect to my PC in order to get anything done. How am I suppose to use Base Camp with my on board Nav system without a separate GPS to feed maps to Base Camp??
Assume I got a route drawn on Base Camp using my separate GPS and loaded to my Nav system. I get half way to me destination and decide to change my routes. I have my laptop with me, but I do not have a seperate GPS. Can I change the maps in my Nav system??
For 99.9% of users BaseCamp is like using a CNC machine to drive a screw through a 2x4. WAY over complicated.
Last edited by tdkkart; Jun 25, 2015 at 12:12 PM.
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From: Acton, CA
Go ahead and draw the route in your BaseCamp and then try to get your Garmin GPS or Infotainment Nav system to follow it as you drew it.
Next question...
I have a new HD bike with on-board navigation. I can download Base Camp, but from what I understand I have to have a separate Garmin GPS to connect to my PC in order to get anything done. How am I suppose to use Base Camp with my on board Nav system without a separate GPS to feed maps to Base Camp??
Assume I got a route drawn on Base Camp using my separate GPS and loaded to my Nav system. I get half way to me destination and decide to change my routes. I have my laptop with me, but I do not have a seperate GPS. Can I change the maps in my Nav system??
For 99.9% of users BaseCamp is like using a CNC machine to drive a screw through a 2x4. WAY over complicated.
Next question
Next question...
I have a new HD bike with on-board navigation. I can download Base Camp, but from what I understand I have to have a separate Garmin GPS to connect to my PC in order to get anything done. How am I suppose to use Base Camp with my on board Nav system without a separate GPS to feed maps to Base Camp??
Assume I got a route drawn on Base Camp using my separate GPS and loaded to my Nav system. I get half way to me destination and decide to change my routes. I have my laptop with me, but I do not have a seperate GPS. Can I change the maps in my Nav system??
For 99.9% of users BaseCamp is like using a CNC machine to drive a screw through a 2x4. WAY over complicated.
Next question
Last edited by caberto; Jun 25, 2015 at 01:28 PM.
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From: Gainesville
I have a Zumo 590 hooked to my RGS. I like to record my rout, the HD unit you have to select record each time. The Zumo is sways on record.
Maps are more up to date, not perfect but better than HD.
HD had come up with a "warning incomplete rout info" three times on this trip so far. Garmin had no issues.
I can have live doppler radar and traffic on the screen. Smartphone link app subscription was 20 bucks one time fee.
Maps are more up to date, not perfect but better than HD.
HD had come up with a "warning incomplete rout info" three times on this trip so far. Garmin had no issues.
I can have live doppler radar and traffic on the screen. Smartphone link app subscription was 20 bucks one time fee.
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If you spend a little time to watch 2-3 of Basecamp's free tutorial startup videos, you'll get an understanding fairly quickly of how it works, to be able to start using it effectively. They're not long videos.
I always use enough waypoints to make sure the route I want will be followed, I think the more the better, that way it's clear as to what route you want to take regardless of what system you use. It always works for me.
I always use enough waypoints to make sure the route I want will be followed, I think the more the better, that way it's clear as to what route you want to take regardless of what system you use. It always works for me.
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Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Canadian Lakes MI and Jackson MO
I loaded a long list of my favorite Michigan waypoints via BaseCamp to GPX file to USB memory stick to Infotainment Navigation "Saved". In the learning process, I duplicated 5 waypoints and I cannot delete one or both of them (any one of the 5 pair of duplicates).
But I can delete any of the non-duplicate waypoints. Is there a way to "batch" delete all of the waypoints I transferred (singletons and identical twins). I know I am going to want to erase all Saved waypoints anytime I want to load another set of waypoints and don't want the previous set cluttering up the library.
But I can delete any of the non-duplicate waypoints. Is there a way to "batch" delete all of the waypoints I transferred (singletons and identical twins). I know I am going to want to erase all Saved waypoints anytime I want to load another set of waypoints and don't want the previous set cluttering up the library.