Infotainment Navigation Question
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 313
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From: Kremmling,CO
I am so frustrated with Harley's approach to navigation. Planning an 8 day trip to Nova Scotia in August. I've been trying to get each day's riding directions loaded, but to no avail. Every time I create a trip in Ride Planner, then import it into the Nav system, the route is changed by the bike's system. I want to take specific roads, but can't seem to get the bike to co-operate.
I tried breaking a day down into 5 or six "locations" instead of waypoints and that works, but the day's ride (let's use Monday as an example) is broken down into Monday 1, Monday 2, Monday 3, etc. That's fine, but my question is, does the nav system automatically cycle from Monday 1 to Monday 2 as I ride, or do I manually have to go through the menu screens to start the next leg while I'm riding, which can be dangerous and maybe take me off course until I get the new leg called up?
Also, I use a free online map and trip site called "My Scenic Drives". This is a great place to plan a ride, and get my routes exactly how I want them... easier, I think, than Basecamp. It does give an option to export a trip in a GPX file. Would this be readable by Harley's nav system?
Finally, when I am importing a ride into the nav system on my bike, I notice different options, such as an option to import the file (example, Monday.gpx), or an option that says "Select All". What is the difference? There must be a reason, else why the offering of different options?
Thanks for reading this lengthy post, and I hope I can get some answers from you knowledgeable folks. To me, It's a crying shame that Harley doesn't make better use of their Boombox system, and make things more manageable for the riders and owners, who paid a ton of money for this crap system!
I tried breaking a day down into 5 or six "locations" instead of waypoints and that works, but the day's ride (let's use Monday as an example) is broken down into Monday 1, Monday 2, Monday 3, etc. That's fine, but my question is, does the nav system automatically cycle from Monday 1 to Monday 2 as I ride, or do I manually have to go through the menu screens to start the next leg while I'm riding, which can be dangerous and maybe take me off course until I get the new leg called up?
Also, I use a free online map and trip site called "My Scenic Drives". This is a great place to plan a ride, and get my routes exactly how I want them... easier, I think, than Basecamp. It does give an option to export a trip in a GPX file. Would this be readable by Harley's nav system?
Finally, when I am importing a ride into the nav system on my bike, I notice different options, such as an option to import the file (example, Monday.gpx), or an option that says "Select All". What is the difference? There must be a reason, else why the offering of different options?
Thanks for reading this lengthy post, and I hope I can get some answers from you knowledgeable folks. To me, It's a crying shame that Harley doesn't make better use of their Boombox system, and make things more manageable for the riders and owners, who paid a ton of money for this crap system!
When creating a route on Ride Planner start off by zooming in on the road and creating locations, not waypoints. After you have created the ride (with a lot of locations) go back and change the locations to waypoints. All except your start point and end point.
When importing the "named ride" import the ride name only.
Preview your route on the screen. Simulate your route is also an option.
I set my preference to "scenic". I have practiced with Ride Planner, the Nav system and read the navigation section of the manual and find the system works as well as any system I have used. A little experimentation and practice and I am sure you will find the same. Thanks, Grant.
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 356
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From: Mesa Arizona
How long does it take to preview or simulate a ride, say 3000 miles or so?
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 313
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From: Kremmling,CO
The most important part of the process is to zoom in while placing locations, then go back and change them to waypoints. This will make sure your system follows YOUR route. I have numerous 1000 mile trips on Ride Planner. Again, with a little study and patience I find the whole setup works great
I'll start off by saying you seem a little frustrated Sunpilot.
When creating a route on Ride Planner start off by zooming in on the road and creating locations, not waypoints. After you have created the ride (with a lot of locations) go back and change the locations to waypoints. All except your start point and end point.
When importing the "named ride" import the ride name only.
Preview your route on the screen. Simulate your route is also an option.
I set my preference to "scenic". I have practiced with Ride Planner, the Nav system and read the navigation section of the manual and find the system works as well as any system I have used. A little experimentation and practice and I am sure you will find the same. Thanks, Grant.
When creating a route on Ride Planner start off by zooming in on the road and creating locations, not waypoints. After you have created the ride (with a lot of locations) go back and change the locations to waypoints. All except your start point and end point.
When importing the "named ride" import the ride name only.
Preview your route on the screen. Simulate your route is also an option.
I set my preference to "scenic". I have practiced with Ride Planner, the Nav system and read the navigation section of the manual and find the system works as well as any system I have used. A little experimentation and practice and I am sure you will find the same. Thanks, Grant.
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 313
Likes: 1
From: Kremmling,CO
g and i have had this same conversation in a thread i started about a month ago....and yes he is very accurate, however i have not been able to figure out how to preview the trip yet. to simulate it is terrible, it is slower than molasses so i dont do that....in all reality the hd ride planner is the best i have found and if you use it regularly it is actually very easy to use
SHOWING A PLANNED ROUTE
An entered route can be displayed before committing to the
route.
1. When a destination has been selected, select the option
button (before pressing Go).
2. Select Show Route.The map shows the entire highlighted
route.
3. To commit to the route, select the Back button twice.
Grand HDF Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 4,585
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From: Rolla
I haven't had any issues with mine. I've loaded multiple routes and navigated those routes as planned.
I've entered an address into the system, and it has taken me to that address.
Road Master
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 752
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From: Acton, CA
I have not researched the gps problems lately and it appears not a lot has changed.
I updated mine a few days ago and went on my first trip of the year. Now when i imported the trip i selected the option to import all. I see that some of you only import the trip. I took off on my route and then realized that i was beyond my first way point. The gps kept me on course but the mileage distance to finish was always off. Is there a way to delete a way point after you have passed it on the bike?
I am still using Tyre and just realized that it uses Google Maps. So during the winter if you are trying to plot a route though as area that is closed you wont be able to plot it completely.
I updated mine a few days ago and went on my first trip of the year. Now when i imported the trip i selected the option to import all. I see that some of you only import the trip. I took off on my route and then realized that i was beyond my first way point. The gps kept me on course but the mileage distance to finish was always off. Is there a way to delete a way point after you have passed it on the bike?
I am still using Tyre and just realized that it uses Google Maps. So during the winter if you are trying to plot a route though as area that is closed you wont be able to plot it completely.
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Tourer
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 313
Likes: 1
From: Kremmling,CO
wow, you can't get it to work?
Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 132
Likes: 5
From: Blountville, TN.
Going to give it another shot today with suggestions from this thread. The trips just always loaded funny to me and not the same route I planned on the ride planner. Now realizing something my make a difference. Would have thought a Harley GPS and a Harley Ride Planner would have been plug and play. Sorry maybe I'm asking to much 28 k, but seems Zumo have been alot more user friendly.That said I still love my Ultra.