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Old Oct 3, 2015 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lp
All EVO's use a one way umbrella valve in the head as well. Not sure what is up with yours. Interesting.
Ok, I'll take your word on this.
Do they (The head bolts) exhaust or intake or both? Trying to remember what I did that the bike wouldn't run and could have blown a head gasket (but didn't).
 
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Old Oct 3, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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Ok, I'll take your word on this.
Do they (The head bolts) exhaust or intake or both? Trying to remember what I did that the bike wouldn't run and could have blown a head gasket (but didn't).
Might have blocked the breather bolts or put in a bolt that is not an actual hollow breather bolt (blocks the breather system output). That will cause havoc.

Yes, the system breathes "out", exit. Doesn't allow air to suck back in (that's what the one way umbrella stops). If it did, think about how much dirt and junk would go directly into the heads, which would be bad...

A blocked breather will cause the engine to run hot and sluggish. Can sometimes make the engine eat all the engine oil pretty quickly too.
 

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Old Oct 3, 2015 | 09:47 PM
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Thanks, fortunately I didn't get out of the driveway and it died. then got her back in the garage and did the bypass and "T" to a filter.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2015 | 09:49 PM
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Here is how I did it...so many threads on this...
 
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 09:22 AM
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even the case breather has a timed gear for venting. blows out, doesn't inhale.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 10:27 AM
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Thanks LP. I wouldn't have believed me either

I think one of the most common misconceptions is that the breather vents pull in, which is not the case.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by polbit
Do you guys see anything wrong with this set up? It's a Fuel Moto A/C, and some rubber hose with splitter. Routed it down with an open end close to crossover pipe.


The only thing I would change, is that I used a little black silicon to fill the void where the hoses used to run,to keep any dust from coming through the groove unfiltered into the intake. Also I put a little K&N filter where the hose ends just about bottom frame level. I may be a OCD, but that's my 2 cents.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 05:13 PM
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In a perfect world the butterflies keep there from being any sucking on the hose...but the butterfly valves are not 100% effecient. There is a small amount of air that does suck back into the engine via the breather system...more at start up and shut down, than while running.

Running a filter at the end of the hose not only guards against the very small chance of anything getting back up into the engine, but the bigger benefit is that it will absorb the oil and other gunk, not leaving drips in the driveway or garage, and not spraying the underside of the bike with oil mist to attract a layer of dirt.

If you are running a filter at the end of the hose and getting oil dripping out of it, it is either-

A cheap filter (or more than 5000 miles since the filter was cleaned)
Too much oil or crankcase pressure
Too low of a viscosity of oil for the temps being ridden in
Worn or defective butterfly valves

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Can someone please explain why you would do this? How much oil is pushed out the breather? I have the Screamen Eagle stage 1 kit on my 2015 Limited and I don't get any oil on the filter.
 
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Originally Posted by 95ci springer
Can someone please explain why you would do this? How much oil is pushed out the breather? I have the Screamen Eagle stage 1 kit on my 2015 Limited and I don't get any oil on the filter.
No oil showing up on the filter means it is all going into the combustion chambers...while this is less messy, it is actually worse for performance and engine longevity.


1. Hot, oily, oxygen depleted air combined with gas does not produce as much power as cooler, oxygen rich air combined with gas.

2. Build up on pistons will reduce engine longevity, and will make your tune that worked great today, not work so good 5-10k miles down the road.





 
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