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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 10:31 AM
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has anyone tried using a cell phone portable charger, hooked up to the battery tender dongle on the left side, to jump there bike? I have two 26800mAh bricks and taking it on the road as a portable jump for my bike and my phone would be awesome. I know they sell one specifically for this purpose, i am just trying to use what I already have.

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NO! The wires are too thin on those tender hookups, could be 18 awg, and you're liable to melt something. I know how convenient that would be, and made a 10 awg wire set for one of mine; that's about the minimum for that current, and what those lithium jump batteries use. You can get 10 awg SAE connectors with foot long wires on them, trim to fit and crimp or solder on ring terminals for the battery connection, wasn't difficult for me. I put the tubing on to make it neater - the wires were separate, not joined like stock tender wire hookups.

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Those tiny lithium battery jumpers are getting cheaper, might be worth getting one to carry on the bike. Mine came with plug adapters to fit most phones and laptops, many do. They usually have EC5 connectors; mine did, and I just made a short SAE to EC5 adapter cable to plug between the bike and battery. Could have used the battery hookup wire that came with the jumper battery, but like to keep wires on the bike at a minimum, and the SAE connector fits more stuff.
 

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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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The Walmarts (and a few other places) had a closeout on one of those lithium jump devices a while back.
Came with a set of small jumper cables, and a few other cords to plug into tablets, phones, etc.....
Plus an A/C charger and a d/c charger.
All for around $20.

I bought an Anti-Gravity brand battery harness on Amazon, and installed that on the bike in addition to the battery tender harness. The charger needs a specific type of plug, not the battery tender one- in my case the Anti Gravity harness was compatible with my jumper box.

So far I have not needed to jump the bike, but I did use it on my boat last year- left a switch on and came back to a dead battery. That little jump box worked like a charm, and saved me the hassle of having to either remove the battery and charge it at home, or try and find a jump source near the boat.
I believe this jump gadget also came with an adapter to convert the harness plug to a battery tender style so it can be used to hook up a tender or power electric clothes, etc.... The harness connector is not the same as the one for a battery tender.

All in all, well worth the $30 I spent on the jump pack and harness.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 11:14 AM
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Thanks guys, I will be making one shortly.
 
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I have and use this one. Had to jump y friend's truck once - worked well
Mine is only 14400 so, if you have 28800, should be plenty of power. See if you can find the jump attachment for the one you have.
 
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Originally Posted by Brewmany
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So far I have not needed to jump the bike, but I did use it on my boat last year- left a switch on and came back to a dead battery. That little jump box worked like a charm, and saved me the hassle of having to either remove the battery and charge it at home, or try and find a jump source near the boat.
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All in all, well worth the $30 I spent on the jump pack and harness.
I haven't needed mine for a bike yet, but I did try it on my 1200 when I had the battery out, and it turned it over. Those are bigger and higher compression cylinders than a lot of cars. It started my V6 van with a weak battery, spun that over faster than normal. If a car/bike battery is dead as in gone, under 6V and sulfated or shorted, a jumper battery probably won't work, though, I tried one like that and it made no difference.

Which brings up another point - you could start a car or a bike with the vehicle battery disconnected, but the vehicle alternator would cook your lithium jumper pretty quick, probably start a fire. Bennington, your packs aren't intended for vehicle jumping, so they probably don't have the warning that the vehicle jumpers come with, to disconnect the jumper wires quickly after the motor starts, but I'm sure that would apply with yours, too. Hopefully, the way larger current when jump starting won't damage your charger batteries, if you ever try them. If you do, might be a good idea to have the lithium battery sitting on something non-flammable, and not touching the bike. I've seen videos of a phone battery lighting off, and anything within a couple feet was at risk! Went off like a blowtorch.

If you only use it once when you're stranded without help, it's worth what you paid for it.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by benningtonr
has anyone tried using a cell phone portable charger, hooked up to the battery tender dongle on the left side, to jump there bike? I have two 26800mAh bricks and taking it on the road as a portable jump for my bike and my phone would be awesome. I know they sell one specifically for this purpose, i am just trying to use what I already have.

Thanks
If you are worried about your battery on a long trip, I recommend a
NOCO Genius NOCO Genius
. I have this one and have started my 6cyl 4Runner with a dead battery. It has a USB output and a standard 12V output with jumpers. Also a very bright flashlight. It is recharged by the USB input. Hard to believe, but this thing works great. I would not connect it via the pigtail, but jump directly to the battery. It's small, easily stored in saddle bags.

 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 08:55 AM
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You can jump your HD off a car by using a standard set of automotive jumper cables.......attach the POS cable to the battery cable connection ON THE STARTER and the NEG cable to anywhere on the frame....... the other ends of the cable go to the car battery (WITH THE CAR TURNED OFF!!!).......and start the cycle. Easy peazy! Best of all you don't need to remove the seat.

Having said that, when in doubt about the condition of your battery, buy a new one! Also keep it on a quality battery maintainer whenever you're not sitting on it! (not just a trickle charger, but a "maintainer"). That $40 investment will make a battery last for more years than you'd think. My batteries typically last 8+ years.
 
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Originally Posted by Rob175
You can jump your HD off a car by using a standard set of automotive jumper cables.......attach the POS cable to the battery cable connection ON THE STARTER and the NEG cable to anywhere on the frame....... the other ends of the cable go to the car battery (WITH THE CAR TURNED OFF!!!).......and start the cycle. Easy peazy! Best of all you don't need to remove the seat.

Having said that, when in doubt about the condition of your battery, buy a new one! Also keep it on a quality battery maintainer whenever you're not sitting on it! (not just a trickle charger, but a "maintainer"). That $40 investment will make a battery last for more years than you'd think. My batteries typically last 8+ years.
That is great advise! I never thought about the Positive terminal on the starter. I've never had to jump my bikes before but will definitely remember this helpful tip!!
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 03:32 PM
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Actually I can't take all the credit for that advice...... I went to an HD dealer seminar and they told of that tip....... just cautioned us to make sure the car that we were jumping from was TURNED OFF. Other than that it's a simple jump.
 
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