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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Oz Gary
Apart from the scorcher tyres what are people trying
Only getting about 5000 klms out of a front
Option to go to commander 11 but would be a 150/70/18 also bias ply
never used them before but a 160 front is pretty unique
As far as the research I have done, there is basically only 1 set of matching tires for the Fat Boy, and it's the Scorcher II's.

However, you can safely run a Rear Tire on the front so long as it matches aspect ratio and width, and you run it reversed direction. Fat Tire baggers do this all the time.
Avon's website even has a small subsection about this.
https://www.avontyres.com/en-gb/tyre...orcycle-tyres/


So you mount the tire on front, with the direction reversed.
I was looking at JPCycles and Revzilla and DennisKirk checking out the options avalbile in 160/60 18inch, and picked out a few. Will be doing some testing when I get the bike and wear out the OEM set.

Are you really only getting 5000Ks? That sounds really low.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII
As far as the research I have done, there is basically only 1 set of matching tires for the Fat Boy, and it's the Scorcher II's.

However, you can safely run a Rear Tire on the front so long as it matches aspect ratio and width, and you run it reversed direction. Fat Tire baggers do this all the time.
Avon's website even has a small subsection about this.
https://www.avontyres.com/en-gb/tyre...orcycle-tyres/


So you mount the tire on front, with the direction reversed.
I was looking at JPCycles and Revzilla and DennisKirk checking out the options avalbile in 160/60 18inch, and picked out a few. Will be doing some testing when I get the bike and wear out the OEM set.

Are you really only getting 5000Ks? That sounds really low.
thanks for the info will look into it
yes 5400klms to be precise, roads in Australia can be abrasive
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII
As far as the research I have done, there is basically only 1 set of matching tires for the Fat Boy, and it's the Scorcher II's.

However, you can safely run a Rear Tire on the front so long as it matches aspect ratio and width, and you run it reversed direction. Fat Tire baggers do this all the time.
Avon's website even has a small subsection about this.
https://www.avontyres.com/en-gb/tyre...orcycle-tyres/


So you mount the tire on front, with the direction reversed.
I was looking at JPCycles and Revzilla and DennisKirk checking out the options avalbile in 160/60 18inch, and picked out a few. Will be doing some testing when I get the bike and wear out the OEM set.

Are you really only getting 5000Ks? That sounds really low.
Interesting to hear that from Avon. Nobody is making a true “front” 160/60-18 other than the Michelin OEM Scorcher. I’ve been looking at some 150/70-18 fronts for when my FLFBS is due, but I haven’t made my mind up yet. Plenty of options for the 240 tho...
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormin70
Interesting to hear that from Avon. Nobody is making a true “front” 160/60-18 other than the Michelin OEM Scorcher. I’ve been looking at some 150/70-18 fronts for when my FLFBS is due, but I haven’t made my mind up yet. Plenty of options for the 240 tho...
So you can safely run a 150/70 18in on a 160/60 18in Wheel?
Ill have to look into those tires too, then.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII
So you can safely run a 150/70 18in on a 160/60 18in Wheel?
Ill have to look into those tires too, then.
i haven’t specifically tried it on my Fatboy, but I’ve played around with different sizes on other bikes (one size down in front, two sizes up in back) and I’ve had good results. I’ve been doing this for 15 years and 35k miles on my ‘04 Triumph.

what you really need to do is compare the rim width against the manufacturer’s site for recommended tires. Some manufacturers are more conservative (Michelin) than others (Bridgestone) about what will fit what. On my Triumph, I run a 150 rear on a 3.5” rim that originally had a 130 on it. It’s one of the best upgrades I ever did. Back then (~2005), Bridgestone had that as an approved match.

heres an example

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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormin70
i haven’t specifically tried it on my Fatboy, but I’ve played around with different sizes on other bikes (one size down in front, two sizes up in back) and I’ve had good results. I’ve been doing this for 15 years and 35k miles on my ‘04 Triumph.

what you really need to do is compare the rim width against the manufacturer’s site for recommended tires. Some manufacturers are more conservative (Michelin) than others (Bridgestone).
I've heard/seen that you can go 10mm one way or the other and be just fine especially with an increase in aspect ratio in the other direction, but I only just read that somewhere in the ether. So I've tried asking some public motorcycle forums, and gotten zero response in return as to "can it be done."
So someone who's actually done it and knows it works with miles on it, That's good to know.
I've been looking at Cobra Chromes, and I noticed they do make a Rear 150/70 18inch.
I was going to give a Rear Cobra Chrome a test for the back, I might try one in the front too.
I heard the new compound they're using gets near as much milage as the commander II's with better cornering grip.

I'm looking to see how Chrome vs Commander II vs Dunlop Elite 3s match up against each other in the rear of the bike.
At least finding 240 rear tires is plenty easy.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 04:35 PM
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Its good the opinions we get on here as it doesn't hurt to learn. Looking at what they say a 150 tyre is good for a 3.50-4.00 rim and a 160 tyre is good for a 4.00-4.50 rim. The Fatboy has the 4.50 front rim, having said that I have attached a photo of a Commander 11 150/70/18 which has this front tyre and it looks good and from reports rides very well. It is a good option, but by the looks of it the tyre may be supper seeded soon with the introduction of series 111, which does not have this size. Time will tell

 
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Originally Posted by Oz Gary
Its good the opinions we get on here as it doesn't hurt to learn. Looking at what they say a 150 tyre is good for a 3.50-4.00 rim and a 160 tyre is good for a 4.00-4.50 rim. The Fatboy has the 4.50 front rim, having said that I have attached a photo of a Commander 11 150/70/18 which has this front tyre and it looks good and from reports rides very well. It is a good option, but by the looks of it the tyre may be supper seeded soon with the introduction of series 111, which does not have this size. Time will tell
Good to see it fits well and rides well. He needs to reverse it though.
Siping and carcass needs to be inverted on the front.
Either way, at least its a good demo that it fits and rides well.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII
Good to see it fits well and rides well. He needs to reverse it though.
Siping and carcass needs to be inverted on the front.
Either way, at least its a good demo that it fits and rides well.
Thats actually a designated front but is a BIAS construction. Michelin have it listed. Looks good

Sorry I stand corrected it is a rear, see your view on the siping, it is wrong as fitted
 

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Originally Posted by Oz Gary
Thats actually a designated front but is a BIAS construction. Michelin have it listed. Looks good

Sorry I stand corrected it is a rear, see your view on the siping, it is wrong as fitted
No biggie. I'm not sure all of any of this is common knowledge anywhere in the industry.
I had to go digging for it myself.
This whole tire saga for this bike is gonna be interesting to see how it develops.
A 160mm 18in front is such a unique tire size, It'll be interesting to see how people approach this situation.
 
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