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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 05:57 PM
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How different is the triple tree for the older HEritages than M8? Video has one being installed, doesnt look too complicated as I have the crash bar.

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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AJ88V
Pretty sure your S1000RR had one. Or did you use that for enduro too!

Hulkss explanation above is spot on. I never really felt the need for one on a Harley - lots of rake and trail - but a wheelie-prone sport bike with quick response geometry kind of demands one.

Just out of curiosity, has anybody ridden one of these new Softails with low tire pressure and gotten an unstable ride? I once rode my Dyna with low tires and OMG did it start to go unstable above 75mph. Definite bar oscillation - not fun - felt like it did before installing the True Track stabilizers. Not sure a steering stabilizer would help that situation, but fortunately the fix was cheaper - proper tire pressure.
Hehe, ya a lot of my past sports bikes have had them but generally they need them. The steering is super twitch and you really don't want that at higher speeds. Even at legal speeds sports bikes need them generally, IMHO. I've never ridden a bike like my HD with one so I just don't know. I have a progressive one on my ADV bike that gets stiffer when riding off road, but I can barely feel it on the paved roads. It wouldn't make it worse unless it's a POS brand, but any good steering stabilizer is bound to improve feel, I just don't know if it's necessary or worth the money/install time. But hell, people do **** to their bikes all the time that make me go "huh" so...
 

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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 04:33 PM
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I wonder if the Trike dampener can be adapted?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2020 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by OldMike
I see they have one for the Low Rider but not the "new" S.
https://www.gprstabilizer.com/find-k...ears=2018-2020
I'll take the lecture please.
They will have LRS fitment soon. I took my bike there a few weeks ago for them to measure it. The Fat Bob one will fit and work, but is not ideal. I would have already had the proper one if this damn Corona **** hadn't come about. :/
 
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Old Mar 26, 2020 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mchad
I can understand steering dampers for race bikes screaming on a track at 140mph, but is there really need for a street bike? I've never feel any steering instability that made me thing "I need to bolt more **** on my bike"

What does it buy you?
Hit a bump in the middle of a turn at 100, or have your front wheel slightly off center when accelerating enough to get the front wheel just almost off the ground. This bike is pretty stable, but I think the stabilizer would help for sure in specific scenarios. If you don't feel the need for one then it isn't for you. You will know if you need it for sure.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2020 | 02:00 PM
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OP should just slow down. I don't have this problem. Must be a rider issue.


heh... couldn't resist. You do you bro! Enjoy your bike.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2020 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 24v
Hit a bump in the middle of a turn at 100, or have your front wheel slightly off center when accelerating enough to get the front wheel just almost off the ground. This bike is pretty stable, but I think the stabilizer would help for sure in specific scenarios. If you don't feel the need for one then it isn't for you. You will know if you need it for sure.
Ya know, I hadn't really thought of it before, but on a sport bike, you've get a lot of weight on your handlebars, which should put a lot more damping into the system through your arms and shoulders. Having grown up in the era of UJMs, the first thing we often did was put lower bars on our bikes (Daytona bars, but some even went for Clubman bars). And this is in the era before frames and forks got super stiff and rake and trail numbers got really small.

Contrast that to putting high bars on Harleys, where your hands are resting, or even hanging from the bars - by comparison, there must be a lot less damping on the steering system. So maybe idea of adding a steering damper to a high-bar Harley ain't so silly after all.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2020 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AJ88V
Ya know, I hadn't really thought of it before, but on a sport bike, you've get a lot of weight on your handlebars, which should put a lot more damping into the system through your arms and shoulders. Having grown up in the era of UJMs, the first thing we often did was put lower bars on our bikes (Daytona bars, but some even went for Clubman bars). And this is in the era before frames and forks got super stiff and rake and trail numbers got really small.

Contrast that to putting high bars on Harleys, where your hands are resting, or even hanging from the bars - by comparison, there must be a lot less damping on the steering system. So maybe idea of adding a steering damper to a high-bar Harley ain't so silly after all.
Yup, exact same reason one on an FZ09 works well. More upright seating position with less weight on the bars.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2020 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jtodd
OP should just slow down. I don't have this problem. Must be a rider issue.


heh... couldn't resist. You do you bro! Enjoy your bike.
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Old Mar 26, 2020 | 06:18 PM
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This one uses the Shindy stabilizer nad made for the older baggers. Looking under the Heritage triple tree, we have two cables but I dont see a real problem. Bracket should be able to be modified or attach to the fork.

 
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