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Old Jul 23, 2025 | 07:39 PM
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So I am getting mixed advice from friends. I have a 2024 CVO RG (121 VVT) and some are telling me that since I have the stock head pipe, I don't need to tune the bike when I replace the air cleaner from stock. I have the stock head pipe with Khrome Works slip ons and no other mods. What is the truth, even forums and google are all over the place. TIA...Looking to swap out to the Performance Machine cleaner- Black
 
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Old Jul 23, 2025 | 11:59 PM
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Evening All,

So I am getting mixed advice from friends. I have a 2024 CVO RG (121 VVT) and some are telling me that since I have the stock head pipe, I don't need to tune the bike when I replace the air cleaner from stock. I have the stock head pipe with Khrome Works slip ons and no other mods. What is the truth, even forums and google are all over the place. TIA...Looking to swap out to the Performance Machine cleaner- Black
what Harley Davidson says about replacing their OEM air cleaners with their Screaming Eagle AC kits is "All models require ECM calibration with Screamin' Eagle Pro Street Tuner for proper installation. You must recalibrate the ECM when installing this kit. Failure to properly recalibrate the ECM can result in severe engine damage." ... so only you can decide which advice to follow from all the sources you have researched
 
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Old Jul 24, 2025 | 05:19 AM
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If you have already changed the mufflers and now want to change the air cleaner assembly, YES a new tune is in order. You can change one, either the mufflers, or the air cleaner assembly and no new tune is needed, but when you change both, time for a new tune.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2025 | 08:34 AM
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You spent a lot for your bike. Stock Harleys already run very lean from the factory. To protect your investment and make the bike run properly, I recommend a tune.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2025 | 07:48 PM
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Copy on the tune, thank you all!!

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Make sure you have proper baffles in the Kromewerks muffflers as the open cores are WAY too big without them.

Three fellow riders had Kromewerks mufflers with no baffles and all their bikes had very weak bottom end. Fuel Moto advised proper baffles to get bottom end back and after install in all three bikes all now run strong on the bottom end again.

Very good read here: https://university.fuelmotousa.com/a...v-twin-engines
 

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" Make sure you have proper baffles in the Kromewerks muffflers as the open cores are WAY too big without them.
Three fellow riders had Kromewerks mufflers with no baffles and all their bikes had very weak bottom end. Fuel Moto advised proper baffles to get bottom end back and after install in all three bikes all now run strong on the bottom end again.
Very good read here: https://university.fuelmotousa.com/a...v-twin-engines


Thanks for the info, good looking out. The 88s were such simpler machines...but the new ones do rip so it's a good trade off. thanks again..C
 

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Originally Posted by cfabrizio
" Make sure you have proper baffles in the Kromewerks muffflers as the open cores are WAY too big without them.
Three fellow riders had Kromewerks mufflers with no baffles and all their bikes had very weak bottom end. Fuel Moto advised proper baffles to get bottom end back and after install in all three bikes all now run strong on the bottom end again.
Very good read here: https://university.fuelmotousa.com/a...v-twin-engines


Thanks for the info, good looking out. The 88s were such simpler machines...but the new ones do rip so it's a good trade off. thanks again..C
I did the Perforate Performance baffles and they are perfect.

Khrome Werks - Perforate Performance Insert

 
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Call Steve at GMR ,817-741-2000 he's been doing alot of these ,tuning with the new Impact Wiring Solutions ECM , he has been getting great results on the VVT motors just doing the mods you have done.
 
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Like Slingshot said. Also, Stage 1 is air cleaner, mufflers, tune.
 
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