Outside the Box Again (SUB)
I really like the pro audio set up. Loud, crisp and clear and will most likely drown out anyone riding with you. I've done it a few times, LOL! Now I will say you do sacrifice the low end. You get more of a punch than bass response. If your genre of music is rock and country then its most ideal. If its jazz, r&b, or hip hop then you will need something a little extra for bass accommodations. Now I have heard a bike that had a mix. He used (4) 6x9's to give him the low end needed and sounded really nice with the Hertz SV165.1, ST35 and ST25. Wasn't sure on the amp(s) he was running.
I will post a video soon of my set up. As I said earlier I was on the fence about adding a sub but I'm glad I did. Those that have heard it are now inquiring about how they can get their sounds hooked up.
I will post a video soon of my set up. As I said earlier I was on the fence about adding a sub but I'm glad I did. Those that have heard it are now inquiring about how they can get their sounds hooked up.
The reason I was asking though was more about your thoughts on the hertz setup. I'm pretty convinced I'm going to do a full replacement with Hertz, except for the 8's. I have a lot of people telling me the memphis mojo pro 8's put out some nice bass for pro-audio speakers. Now that I picked up memphis too, probably doing a pair of them in the bags.
One of my friends runs all DD and reps my shop pretty heavy. Our setups are similar and like to compete LOL. I'm afraid of pulling the DD for Hertz, and him beating me... Add to that my bike is my rolling business card, need to kill it this year.
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I'm actually in the opposite belief about the bass. I believe I have more since it's playing more audible frequencies in an open environment. At least to my ears it does. I hear more bass with DD 8s and lower wattage than I did with kicker comp 8s and 650 extra watts. Sounded ok until you started moving.
The reason I was asking though was more about your thoughts on the hertz setup. I'm pretty convinced I'm going to do a full replacement with Hertz, except for the 8's. I have a lot of people telling me the memphis mojo pro 8's put out some nice bass for pro-audio speakers. Now that I picked up memphis too, probably doing a pair of them in the bags.
One of my friends runs all DD and reps my shop pretty heavy. Our setups are similar and like to compete LOL. I'm afraid of pulling the DD for Hertz, and him beating me... Add to that my bike is my rolling business card, need to kill it this year.
The reason I was asking though was more about your thoughts on the hertz setup. I'm pretty convinced I'm going to do a full replacement with Hertz, except for the 8's. I have a lot of people telling me the memphis mojo pro 8's put out some nice bass for pro-audio speakers. Now that I picked up memphis too, probably doing a pair of them in the bags.
One of my friends runs all DD and reps my shop pretty heavy. Our setups are similar and like to compete LOL. I'm afraid of pulling the DD for Hertz, and him beating me... Add to that my bike is my rolling business card, need to kill it this year.
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I really like the pro audio set up. Loud, crisp and clear and will most likely drown out anyone riding with you. I've done it a few times, LOL! Now I will say you do sacrifice the low end. You get more of a punch than bass response. If your genre of music is rock and country then its most ideal. If its jazz, r&b, or hip hop then you will need something a little extra for bass accommodations.
I compare PA speakers to going to a rock concert and good coaxials to top of the line surround sound system. One is louder the other is more musical. I think if you are going the PA route you have to understand it's not intended to be a Bose surround sound system. Some brands I've found to be warmer than others, some cleaner sounding, etc. and I've seen enclosures that bring out a warmer sound but for bass you need a sub. The baddest bikes I've heard have all be designed similar to a car - front stage (fairing) rear (bags) and subs (tour pack).
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The direct replacement to my current custom install with the DDs will be the 35s in the glove box doors, and the 44s in the bag lids. Probably looking to add another set somewhere too, just not sure where.
Haze, I'll agree to disagree with you on the pro audio stuff...to a point. I wouldn't use the comparison, as my DD setup sounded every bit a clear and musical as my full Arc setup did. I will agree there a very fine crispness at the higher end that the horns can't really seem to capture the same.
Let me ask you cats this since you're audio crazy like me: What would your opinions be to run a full pro audio setup throwing a high end set of regular components in the mix? I was thinking now that I'm running lowers, to run sv's in the lowers, st35's and maybe a set of milles in the fairing. I would be running them off different amps of course. Then round off the bags with a set of sv's, st44's, and memphis mojo 8's. Honest opinions?
Haze, I'll agree to disagree with you on the pro audio stuff...to a point. I wouldn't use the comparison, as my DD setup sounded every bit a clear and musical as my full Arc setup did. I will agree there a very fine crispness at the higher end that the horns can't really seem to capture the same.
Let me ask you cats this since you're audio crazy like me: What would your opinions be to run a full pro audio setup throwing a high end set of regular components in the mix? I was thinking now that I'm running lowers, to run sv's in the lowers, st35's and maybe a set of milles in the fairing. I would be running them off different amps of course. Then round off the bags with a set of sv's, st44's, and memphis mojo 8's. Honest opinions?
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It's not about disagreeing brother, this is based on specs and the physical design of PA speakers. When you raise sensitivity you give up the ability to play lower frequencies...just the way it is. See if you can find a local car audio shop with a legit real time analyzer and see where your bike graphs out....I'm certain it will be mostly mids, and not much under 100hz. Take the Hertz SV200 8 inch speakers, they have a max linear excursion of 4.5mm, that's simply not enough to play under 80hz at volume which is why Kesean said to hell with it, I'm installing a speaker that is designed to play that low.
It's not about disagreeing brother, this is based on specs and the physical design of PA speakers. When you raise sensitivity you give up the ability to play lower frequencies...just the way it is. See if you can find a local car audio shop with a legit real time analyzer and see where your bike graphs out....I'm certain it will be mostly mids, and not much under 100hz. Take the Hertz SV200 8 inch speakers, they have a max linear excursion of 4.5mm, that's simply not enough to play under 80hz at volume which is why Kesean said to hell with it, I'm installing a speaker that is designed to play that low.
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It's not about disagreeing brother, this is based on specs and the physical design of PA speakers. When you raise sensitivity you give up the ability to play lower frequencies...just the way it is. See if you can find a local car audio shop with a legit real time analyzer and see where your bike graphs out....I'm certain it will be mostly mids, and not much under 100hz. Take the Hertz SV200 8 inch speakers, they have a max linear excursion of 4.5mm, that's simply not enough to play under 80hz at volume which is why Kesean said to hell with it, I'm installing a speaker that is designed to play that low.
It's not about disagreeing brother, this is based on specs and the physical design of PA speakers. When you raise sensitivity you give up the ability to play lower frequencies...just the way it is. See if you can find a local car audio shop with a legit real time analyzer and see where your bike graphs out....I'm certain it will be mostly mids, and not much under 100hz. Take the Hertz SV200 8 inch speakers, they have a max linear excursion of 4.5mm, that's simply not enough to play under 80hz at volume which is why Kesean said to hell with it, I'm installing a speaker that is designed to play that low.
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The direct replacement to my current custom install with the DDs will be the 35s in the glove box doors, and the 44s in the bag lids. Probably looking to add another set somewhere too, just not sure where.
Haze, I'll agree to disagree with you on the pro audio stuff...to a point. I wouldn't use the comparison, as my DD setup sounded every bit a clear and musical as my full Arc setup did. I will agree there a very fine crispness at the higher end that the horns can't really seem to capture the same.
Let me ask you cats this since you're audio crazy like me: What would your opinions be to run a full pro audio setup throwing a high end set of regular components in the mix? I was thinking now that I'm running lowers, to run sv's in the lowers, st35's and maybe a set of milles in the fairing. I would be running them off different amps of course. Then round off the bags with a set of sv's, st44's, and memphis mojo 8's. Honest opinions?
Haze, I'll agree to disagree with you on the pro audio stuff...to a point. I wouldn't use the comparison, as my DD setup sounded every bit a clear and musical as my full Arc setup did. I will agree there a very fine crispness at the higher end that the horns can't really seem to capture the same.
Let me ask you cats this since you're audio crazy like me: What would your opinions be to run a full pro audio setup throwing a high end set of regular components in the mix? I was thinking now that I'm running lowers, to run sv's in the lowers, st35's and maybe a set of milles in the fairing. I would be running them off different amps of course. Then round off the bags with a set of sv's, st44's, and memphis mojo 8's. Honest opinions?
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It's not about disagreeing brother, this is based on specs and the physical design of PA speakers. When you raise sensitivity you give up the ability to play lower frequencies...just the way it is. See if you can find a local car audio shop with a legit real time analyzer and see where your bike graphs out....I'm certain it will be mostly mids, and not much under 100hz. Take the Hertz SV200 8 inch speakers, they have a max linear excursion of 4.5mm, that's simply not enough to play under 80hz at volume which is why Kesean said to hell with it, I'm installing a speaker that is designed to play that low.
It's not about disagreeing brother, this is based on specs and the physical design of PA speakers. When you raise sensitivity you give up the ability to play lower frequencies...just the way it is. See if you can find a local car audio shop with a legit real time analyzer and see where your bike graphs out....I'm certain it will be mostly mids, and not much under 100hz. Take the Hertz SV200 8 inch speakers, they have a max linear excursion of 4.5mm, that's simply not enough to play under 80hz at volume which is why Kesean said to hell with it, I'm installing a speaker that is designed to play that low.
So guys, what do you think about throwing a set of Milles in the fairing and running the SV's in the lowers?
Kesean, I get what you're saying with the 44s in the lids. I'm already running the B2s there and they're not overbearing, guessing the 44s aren't going to put out THAT much more.