Focal?
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Cool!! Let us know if you detect a huge difference in SQ. I already know the answer but I'd like your opinion.
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I'm not expecting a huge difference in SQ..I thought they sounded damn good with the ss amp...kinda just wanted the arc moto...ever done that before? lol
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Yes I have.... Lol!!
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Im curious about this too. Because my krc's with the pn4.1000 sounds great. Might be because of the aftermarket hu too.
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With the focals in both I have the fairing tweeter crossover set at -6 and the lowers set to 0. Don't get that option with the krc replacments. Not saying it's the best front stage setup at all, just how I have mine set up. In fact I'm going to be experimenting with different combos soon.
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Originally Posted by Bertk
How well do you hear the lowers at speed?
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Ok gotcha.
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I think that a side by side comparison will yield better SQ. I noticed it with increased volume. Now, that being said, you will lose warmth with the moto, but will gain clarity. All in what your ears are after....
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Originally Posted by Bertk
How well do you hear the lowers at speed?
But to answer your question, with two identical sets of KRC's in the fairing and lowers running off of a bt4180 NOT in parallel with anything(rear pods not wired into the system). This is the most power these speakers can get from this amp at least 150 per speaker. Testing was done with the Volume set at 14 out of 17, fairing wired to front and lower wired to rear, fade set in the middle and fading to front(fairing) only as fast as it will fade;
In the parking up to 50 mph you want them(lowers). They give a rich full sound that you miss when the lowers fade out.
At 60 you can tell they were there but no big deal when they fade out.
At 70+ with volume up to 15(momentarily) they are gone, nothing, zilch! Very disappointed as that's where I am trying to tune my system. I don't go to bike nights and or "pimp the parking lot" lol(stole that from someone, forgot who).
Really thinking about putting lesser sq speakers down there now as it's basically expensive fill sound even in the parking lot. The lowers sound like crap by themselves at ear level, if you put your head at seat level they sound just like the fairing but sit at riding level and they sound terrible by them selves.
I was very surprised, really thought they did more at highway speed. I know that when riding solo I can sometimes hear the rear pods(BT 6.5's) that were wired in parallel with the lowers, I'm going to have to do a test with them next. Maybe I'll test the BT6.5's then swap them with the lowers and see how the KRC's do back there, I was going to put Moto 602's back there but I'll try these first.
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Ok I have a definitive for you now. I was able to fix/equal my front and rear channels(at least very close now) through adjusting the HPF and the focal tweeter adjustments on the crossovers, I'll get into more detail on another thread.
But to answer your question, with two identical sets of KRC's in the fairing and lowers running off of a bt4180 NOT in parallel with anything(rear pods not wired into the system). This is the most power these speakers can get from this amp at least 150 per speaker. Testing was done with the Volume set at 14 out of 17, fairing wired to front and lower wired to rear, fade set in the middle and fading to front(fairing) only as fast as it will fade;
In the parking up to 50 mph you want them(lowers). They give a rich full sound that you miss when the lowers fade out.
At 60 you can tell they were there but no big deal when they fade out.
At 70+ with volume up to 15(momentarily) they are gone, nothing, zilch! Very disappointed as that's where I am trying to tune my system. I don't go to bike nights and or "pimp the parking lot" lol(stole that from someone, forgot who).
Really thinking about putting lesser sq speakers down there now as it's basically expensive fill sound even in the parking lot. The lowers sound like crap by themselves at ear level, if you put your head at seat level they sound just like the fairing but sit at riding level and they sound terrible by them selves.
I was very surprised, really thought they did more at highway speed. I know that when riding solo I can sometimes hear the rear pods(BT 6.5's) that were wired in parallel with the lowers, I'm going to have to do a test with them next. Maybe I'll test the BT6.5's then swap them with the lowers and see how the KRC's do back there, I was going to put Moto 602's back there but I'll try these first.
But to answer your question, with two identical sets of KRC's in the fairing and lowers running off of a bt4180 NOT in parallel with anything(rear pods not wired into the system). This is the most power these speakers can get from this amp at least 150 per speaker. Testing was done with the Volume set at 14 out of 17, fairing wired to front and lower wired to rear, fade set in the middle and fading to front(fairing) only as fast as it will fade;
In the parking up to 50 mph you want them(lowers). They give a rich full sound that you miss when the lowers fade out.
At 60 you can tell they were there but no big deal when they fade out.
At 70+ with volume up to 15(momentarily) they are gone, nothing, zilch! Very disappointed as that's where I am trying to tune my system. I don't go to bike nights and or "pimp the parking lot" lol(stole that from someone, forgot who).
Really thinking about putting lesser sq speakers down there now as it's basically expensive fill sound even in the parking lot. The lowers sound like crap by themselves at ear level, if you put your head at seat level they sound just like the fairing but sit at riding level and they sound terrible by them selves.
I was very surprised, really thought they did more at highway speed. I know that when riding solo I can sometimes hear the rear pods(BT 6.5's) that were wired in parallel with the lowers, I'm going to have to do a test with them next. Maybe I'll test the BT6.5's then swap them with the lowers and see how the KRC's do back there, I was going to put Moto 602's back there but I'll try these first.