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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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...and use the same music and musical source for comparison!!
holy ****... we woulda been at mcdonalds all day😆😆😆😆😆
 
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 10:33 PM
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holy ****... we woulda been at mcdonalds all day����������
well...at least the same song...apples to apples! Oh yeah and no damn country!!
 

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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 10:53 PM
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Certainly one of you guys were able to form some sort of opinion regarding what was coming out of the fairings with PAs installed.

Just an opinion, not asking for the nuclear codes.

I'm betting the following order:
Beyma
PRV
Mmats
DD VO.

If it ain't that order then there are some tuning issues.

T.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Tailwind
Certainly one of you guys were able to form some sort of opinion regarding what was coming out of the fairings with PAs installed.

Just an opinion, not asking for the nuclear codes.

I'm betting the following order:
Beyma
PRV
Mmats
DD VO.

If it ain't that order then there are some tuning issues.

T.
I wont comment on my own setup buy will say the mmats had a nice gentle sound to them. Not near the punch and volume compared to mine but a great sound none the less. The prv I can't dissect much as too much going on Chris's setup without some isolation but will go far enough​ to say they are right up there without a doubt.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 05:38 AM
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We use different speakers for different purposes at the shop and I'd say each is number one at what we need them to do. In that group I'd say PRV is the stupid loud one, Beyma is clearest, MMats is the warmest. Where those lines blend between loud, clear, warm, etc on each of them helps us figure out what speaker to use depending on the rest of the build and what the customer is looking for. VO 6.5 we don't like at all, the 8's are ok, but the 6x9 are awesome! The other consideration is price point.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 07:49 AM
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So now that we r all generally in the same hemisphere on this comparison, what technical knowledge is available to help average joe make the best decisions?

My 2 cents

Beyma - Pros. Reputation, clarity not made in China, 70-9000, 95 at 1v/1m, power band 150rms 300 program. Cons. Priced at $300ish but quality does come at a cost.
Overall - great sound quality, efficient thus loud as hell.

PRV - Pros. Loud as hell, not made in China, 105-12500, 94 at 1v/1m, power band 250rms 500 program. Cons. Power band not quite as good in low end for warmth but excellent range in trade. $200 so both a pro and con thus good bang for the buck.
Overall - pretty damn good sound quality, efficient thus really damn loud as hell with higher power band = Presence. Excellent freq range just a bit brighter on low side due to 105 Hz. Good damn bang for the buck.

Mmats - Pros. Priced at $128, warmer but the trade off requires horns due to very narrow power band focused on mid bass and low mids.
Cons, 120-5000 Hz, 75w RMS 150 program, 90 at 1v/1m
Overall - much warmer than all being discussed and priced right but not efficient thus not as loud. Very narrow power band and also low power band thus presence was a bit less than the others.

DD VO 6.5 - Pros. Priced at $138, 70 to 13000 Hz, 60w RMS to 300 program Cons. Made in China, 91 at 1v/1m.
Overall - priced right with very good power band. Sound quality is not real good and not very efficient thus not as loud with same power applied.

So based on the macro discussion on this thread, what can be deducted from the general specs, efficiency, pricing, manufacturer, speaker production location, etc that can be utilized to make good purchase decisions?

If u ask me, with the info given the picture can be pretty clear to get the sandbox fairly damn small for each riders situation. Not totally clear but at least assists greatly in the process of elimination.

T.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tailwind
So now that we r all generally in the same hemisphere on this comparison, what technical knowledge is available to help average joe make the best decisions?

My 2 cents

Beyma - Pros. Reputation, clarity not made in China, 70-9000, 95 at 1v/1m, power band 150rms 300 program. Cons. Priced at $300ish but quality does come at a cost.
Overall - great sound quality, efficient thus loud as hell.

PRV - Pros. Loud as hell, not made in China, 105-12500, 94 at 1v/1m, power band 250rms 500 program. Cons. Power band not quite as good in low end for warmth but excellent range in trade. $200 so both a pro and con thus good bang for the buck.
Overall - pretty damn good sound quality, efficient thus really damn loud as hell with higher power band = Presence. Excellent freq range just a bit brighter on low side due to 105 Hz. Good damn bang for the buck.

Mmats - Pros. Priced at $128, warmer but the trade off requires horns due to very narrow power band focused on mid bass and low mids.
Cons, 120-5000 Hz, 75w RMS 150 program, 90 at 1v/1m
Overall - much warmer than all being discussed and priced right but not efficient thus not as loud. Very narrow power band and also low power band thus presence was a bit less than the others.

DD VO 6.5 - Pros. Priced at $138, 70 to 13000 Hz, 60w RMS to 300 program Cons. Made in China, 91 at 1v/1m.
Overall - priced right with very good power band. Sound quality is not real good and not very efficient thus not as loud with same power applied.

So based on the macro discussion on this thread, what can be deducted from the general specs, efficiency, pricing, manufacturer, speaker production location, etc that can be utilized to make good purchase decisions?

If u ask me, with the info given the picture can be pretty clear to get the sandbox fairly damn small for each riders situation. Not totally clear but at least assists greatly in the process of elimination.

T.
Awesome write up! I'm running Mmats and completely impressed with how they sound for the price. I would like to try the PRV's and Beyma with my system. I'm also looking for something louder and with more punch.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cshocker
Awesome write up! I'm running Mmats and completely impressed with how they sound for the price. I would like to try the PRV's and Beyma with my system. I'm also looking for something louder and with more punch.
I think this is what we all are looking for... Here unicorn, I have a carrot for you...

(do unicorns eat carrots?)

Maybe thats my problem
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pdevore
I think this is what we all are looking for... Here unicorn, I have a carrot for you...

(do unicorns eat carrots?)

Maybe thats my problem


I'll let you and Chris search out that unicorn and then I'll go from there
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pdevore
I think this is what we all are looking for... Here unicorn, I have a carrot for you...

(do unicorns eat carrots?)

Maybe thats my problem
unicorns eat paychecks!!!
 
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