Are DSP's Lord Voldemort?
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Its on the j&m amp tray next to the soundigital 400.4. I put it there so i didnt have to run extensions on the rca cables to the sony xav 100.
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Originally Posted by sponger
I just read that the dsr1 has the Q factors at a 4.3 from factory. I also read, that is WAY to high. Should start it around 1.4 -2.5 or so. Gotta do more reading/watching.
Thankfully I have some bad **** brothers that perpetually mentor me through the Q Factors but even then they are manipulated on a regular basis for my specific rodeo.
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Q factors are just one of the little tweeks you can make to fine tune. Takes time to learn and time to apply really is something you have to adjust, listen, readjust, listen etc.
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This ties right into the discussions about sharing DSP files and how its perceived that it should be a normal occurrence, but just Q strategies alone are all over the map. Each individual will attack this from a different angle or several different angles. The higher Qs will surgically address certain frequencies (narrow bandwidth) that are being amplified which can be of value. The lower Qs (wider bandwidth) are more of a natural flow. But until u jump in and play with that stuff u just don't know what the pros and cons are for your specific goals and setup.
Thankfully I have some bad **** brothers that perpetually mentor me through the Q Factors but even then they are manipulated on a regular basis for my specific rodeo.
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Thankfully I have some bad **** brothers that perpetually mentor me through the Q Factors but even then they are manipulated on a regular basis for my specific rodeo.
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Last night i removed my saddlebaglatch covers I then applied stick on weather stripping between all the various folds and under the cover, a thing of beauty to be loved and admired, silence. Reaally cleaned up the low end, amazed at the clarity from the PRV 8's in my bags. Also amazzed how the latches muddied the lows, little things can mean alot.
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While I understand and agree, in part, with the discussion about each of us having our own setups and preferences, I believe that a baseline file to flatten out the HU on the Rushmores for the DSR-1 would be a case where sharing would be useful since it doesn't come with one by default.
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Here's the thing with Q numbers and the differences on an EQ that has 7 bangs (the Arc) lets say 12-13 bands and an EQ like the DSR1 that has 31 bands. The Q factor is how wide you want the change you made to spread. So for example lets say you move 500hz up +2b there are freq to the left and right of that so what does 400hz and 600hz look like when you move 500 up? A higher number like a 4 will create more of a peak at 500 and allows you to focus on that freqs and number like 1 looks more like a plateau and moves the 400 and 600 up a bit too.
So why is this important to know....and how it relates to different DSP's. Well if you have 31 band EQ you can absolutely use a 4 Q factor because if you just focus on +2db at 500 you can then adjust 600 at your liking. If you only have 7 bands then you have to consider how that move of +2db to 500 sounds at 600hz and then you have to adjust the Q up or down. So don't think of Q as it having to be a 2 or that 4 is better. It really is dependent on the tool (DSP) you are using and the adjustments you are looking to make.
When it get's tricky is does 500hz at 1.5 Q +2db (where you have cause a change at 600) sound better than 500hz at 4Q +2db and then adjusted 600hz at 4Q + 1.5db. It could sound exactly the same?
So why is this important to know....and how it relates to different DSP's. Well if you have 31 band EQ you can absolutely use a 4 Q factor because if you just focus on +2db at 500 you can then adjust 600 at your liking. If you only have 7 bands then you have to consider how that move of +2db to 500 sounds at 600hz and then you have to adjust the Q up or down. So don't think of Q as it having to be a 2 or that 4 is better. It really is dependent on the tool (DSP) you are using and the adjustments you are looking to make.
When it get's tricky is does 500hz at 1.5 Q +2db (where you have cause a change at 600) sound better than 500hz at 4Q +2db and then adjusted 600hz at 4Q + 1.5db. It could sound exactly the same?
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While I understand and agree, in part, with the discussion about each of us having our own setups and preferences, I believe that a baseline file to flatten out the HU on the Rushmores for the DSR-1 would be a case where sharing would be useful since it doesn't come with one by default.
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Originally Posted by haze324
Here's the thing with Q numbers and the differences on an EQ that has 7 bangs (the Arc) lets say 12-13 bands and an EQ like the DSR1 that has 31 bands. The Q factor is how wide you want the change you made to spread. So for example lets say you move 500hz up +2b there are freq to the left and right of that so what does 400hz and 600hz look like when you move 500 up? A higher number like a 4 will create more of a peak at 500 and allows you to focus on that freqs and number like 1 looks more like a plateau and moves the 400 and 600 up a bit too.
So why is this important to know....and how it relates to different DSP's. Well if you have 31 band EQ you can absolutely use a 4 Q factor because if you just focus on +2db at 500 you can then adjust 600 at your liking. If you only have 7 bands then you have to consider how that move of +2db to 500 sounds at 600hz and then you have to adjust the Q up or down. So don't think of Q as it having to be a 2 or that 4 is better. It really is dependent on the tool (DSP) you are using and the adjustments you are looking to make.
When it get's tricky is does 500hz at 1.5 Q +2db (where you have cause a change at 600) sound better than 500hz at 4Q +2db and then adjusted 600hz at 4Q + 1.5db. It could sound exactly the same?
So why is this important to know....and how it relates to different DSP's. Well if you have 31 band EQ you can absolutely use a 4 Q factor because if you just focus on +2db at 500 you can then adjust 600 at your liking. If you only have 7 bands then you have to consider how that move of +2db to 500 sounds at 600hz and then you have to adjust the Q up or down. So don't think of Q as it having to be a 2 or that 4 is better. It really is dependent on the tool (DSP) you are using and the adjustments you are looking to make.
When it get's tricky is does 500hz at 1.5 Q +2db (where you have cause a change at 600) sound better than 500hz at 4Q +2db and then adjusted 600hz at 4Q + 1.5db. It could sound exactly the same?
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