I Love my PSM!!!!!
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From: Lockport Illinois
Stil seems to be a lot of over hyping on these threads about the DSP. One dude acts like he is putting a man on the moon and it's damn funny to watch him puke all over himself!!!!
It's just an EQ folks!!!!
U will get out of it what u put into it and at 60 that margin shrinks due to the obvious. U could educate urself to advanced tunes in a 6 pack or two with the assistance of google and you tube. Hell, "phone a friend" is always an option.
The biggest decision to make is whether or not u need one. For simple sled setups stick with the Line Leveler. With multi speaker setups or more complex setups the ability to EQ even the slightest bit will provide better sound. If ur wallet is ok with it, go for it. If ur ears work it's cave man stuff. Hell a HU with EQ is damn near all u need for 99% of our setups but since the Boom does not have an EQ, this DSP gets ur ship to shore. Replacing the 6.5 HU for EQ capability is just a bad move thus the DSP is the solution for those wanting more tuning capability.
The worst case scenario with a DSP is that u don't immediately get the full potential of your speakers but in time ur ears will take u where u need to be as EQs tunes are a individual thing and not at all a one size fits all due to the varying setups, each ear being different, riding styles, genres, and etc.....
So this fantasy land bullshix that tuning an EQ requires some sort of advanced education is a crock. Not much more than the ability to operate a computer, some hands on experience with the tools and ur setup, and not be deaf is all that is required. U will gain experience with your system and the EQ in short order and your ears will guide u. Yesterday when I ride my ears told me I need to add a little bass to my lid 8s and pull a little vocal out of my TP so in 3 mins this was accomplished. Cave man shix.
So when these yahoos come on here with all this hype about EQing, they are selling something, have no clue about the audience here on the HD Forum, or are just stroking themselves. 99% of us don't sit in parking lots back slapping each other about our sled audio systems. We r not tuning to the same 5 sounds in static conditions!!! We ride!!! And we set up our sleds for our individual riding desires and systems.
If the specific conditions for your setup dictates that a DSP would provide benefit, jump on in the water boys!!!! The water is calm!!!!
T.
It's just an EQ folks!!!!
U will get out of it what u put into it and at 60 that margin shrinks due to the obvious. U could educate urself to advanced tunes in a 6 pack or two with the assistance of google and you tube. Hell, "phone a friend" is always an option.
The biggest decision to make is whether or not u need one. For simple sled setups stick with the Line Leveler. With multi speaker setups or more complex setups the ability to EQ even the slightest bit will provide better sound. If ur wallet is ok with it, go for it. If ur ears work it's cave man stuff. Hell a HU with EQ is damn near all u need for 99% of our setups but since the Boom does not have an EQ, this DSP gets ur ship to shore. Replacing the 6.5 HU for EQ capability is just a bad move thus the DSP is the solution for those wanting more tuning capability.
The worst case scenario with a DSP is that u don't immediately get the full potential of your speakers but in time ur ears will take u where u need to be as EQs tunes are a individual thing and not at all a one size fits all due to the varying setups, each ear being different, riding styles, genres, and etc.....
So this fantasy land bullshix that tuning an EQ requires some sort of advanced education is a crock. Not much more than the ability to operate a computer, some hands on experience with the tools and ur setup, and not be deaf is all that is required. U will gain experience with your system and the EQ in short order and your ears will guide u. Yesterday when I ride my ears told me I need to add a little bass to my lid 8s and pull a little vocal out of my TP so in 3 mins this was accomplished. Cave man shix.
So when these yahoos come on here with all this hype about EQing, they are selling something, have no clue about the audience here on the HD Forum, or are just stroking themselves. 99% of us don't sit in parking lots back slapping each other about our sled audio systems. We r not tuning to the same 5 sounds in static conditions!!! We ride!!! And we set up our sleds for our individual riding desires and systems.
If the specific conditions for your setup dictates that a DSP would provide benefit, jump on in the water boys!!!! The water is calm!!!!
T.
Its Not rocket science
Road Captain
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From: Smithfield, VA
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From: TEXAS
Originally Posted by MMXIWG
If it's not rocket science then why is everyone so damn set on not sharing files. They sure are proud of all the effort they are putting into something that is supposed to be so easy.
Would probably be more beneficial to discuss the business tool itself than dropping a file in that has nothing in common with your specific sled audio world.
The file exchange can be more of a hinderance than anything.
T
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From: Lockport Illinois
Everyone's hearing is different
Everyone's riding habits are different
No one listens to the same genre of music at the same volume.
There is a factory default loaded into the Arc PSM from Arc to counter the signal from the Rushmore headunits to start with as a base to get you started and then tailor the sound to your liking.
Road Captain
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From: Smithfield, VA
How is my tune file going to sound on your sled? U running the exact same amps, speakers, genres, music source, wiring, riding style, and same ears? Does ur Dragon kidney punch u when the same certain freqs **** her off?
Would probably be more beneficial to discuss the business tool itself than dropping a file in that has nothing in common with your specific sled audio world.
The file exchange can be more of a hinderance than anything.
T
Would probably be more beneficial to discuss the business tool itself than dropping a file in that has nothing in common with your specific sled audio world.
The file exchange can be more of a hinderance than anything.
T
T, I respect your opinions as your advice has helped so many. Same with Babyboy and others. You guys are more than willing to guide folks here on everything except DSPs. I'm sorry, but I personally don't subscribe to this idea that not sharing is better than sharing. The takeaway here is buy at your own risk and don't expect any help from the forums.
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From: TEXAS
Originally Posted by MMXIWG
You guys are more than willing to guide folks here on everything except DSPs. I'm sorry, but I personally don't subscribe to this idea that not sharing is better than sharing. The takeaway here is buy at your own risk and don't expect any help from the forums.
T.
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From: S. FL
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T, I respect your opinions as your advice has helped so many. Same with Babyboy and others. You guys are more than willing to guide folks here on everything except DSPs. I'm sorry, but I personally don't subscribe to this idea that not sharing is better than sharing. The takeaway here is buy at your own risk and don't expect any help from the forums.
You guys are the forum GURUS!!!!! Help your people with all your infinite wisdom.
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From: Des moines IA
I'm sure I personally wasn't a part of your snied remark, but it was snied, just the same. That type of attitude is not what makes this one of the best forums out there. Maybe I just know so little, it doesn't bothers me to share what I do know. I hope I don't get to the point that I don't want to help others.
I'm also in business for myself. I have lots of competitors in town all vying for work. Some are friends and others just competitors. I give advice (if asked) to all of them, friends and otherwise. If I can further the education of people in my field, it makes for a better business community. If I can educate the cut throats and lowballers, it helps me in the long run. If you notice the car dealers and fast food joints are all clumped together, vying for the same customers. It brings traffic and customers to a central location. They all prosper and survive.
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I also wish there was more information shared on DSPs but I totally understand why many dont offer info. There are thousands of people on this form and many that arent willing to put the effort in to learn. They just want to have their hand held and walked thru everything, and nobody has time for that. For the guys that know its easier to warn people off then to lead then down a road they cant follow and have to bail them out.
