I Love my PSM!!!!!
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That was funny!! Yodeling is like opera... I don't understand what they are saying, so I don't bother. haha
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i love my psm!!!
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i havent seen any vids on the PSM but honestly if you get the concepts you can apply them to any DSP its mostly the interface you have to adjust to. Each DSP has its own quirks youll need to adjust to but essentially the functionality is the same across them.[/QUOTE
this has been my experieince ^^^^
onn the arc audio wbesite and you tube there are a lot of videos relating to the PS8, but there are some differences on the interface, but the info relates.
m
i havent seen any vids on the PSM but honestly if you get the concepts you can apply them to any DSP its mostly the interface you have to adjust to. Each DSP has its own quirks youll need to adjust to but essentially the functionality is the same across them.
this has been my experieince ^^^^
onn the arc audio wbesite and you tube there are a lot of videos relating to the PS8, but there are some differences on the interface, but the info relates.
m
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There are so many aspects that go into audio tuning its not funny. The bottom line is if your lazy and want a good tune, hire someone to tune your system. If you want a great tune, learn stuff and and tune the thing yourself. No matter how hard you wish for it, no two people hear the same. So the only way to get the ultimate tune for you, is to do it yourself. The DSP software is free to download. It will not do you any good without the DSP, but, at least you can see whats involved. Learn what each control does. Its trial and error. Move this control. Does it sound better or worse? Move the next one. It's not going to take 5 min. It's going to take hours maybe days.
The more speakers you have the better the sound. Its also going to take you longer to tune. Your ears do not hear the sound from every speaker the same way or at the same time so you have to correct for that. Your rear speakers need to be louder then the fronts at speed because your ears face more forward than backwards. Speakers out of phase cancel each other out. Are your ears inline with the speaker throw pattern or are they off axis? How much wind in your ears? How tall are you? How far forward or back do you sit? What speakers do you have? What amps do you have? And on and on.
Come to think of it, most of you are better off taking it to a pro.
But not all tuners are the same either. Like dyno tuners, some are better than others.
The more speakers you have the better the sound. Its also going to take you longer to tune. Your ears do not hear the sound from every speaker the same way or at the same time so you have to correct for that. Your rear speakers need to be louder then the fronts at speed because your ears face more forward than backwards. Speakers out of phase cancel each other out. Are your ears inline with the speaker throw pattern or are they off axis? How much wind in your ears? How tall are you? How far forward or back do you sit? What speakers do you have? What amps do you have? And on and on.
Come to think of it, most of you are better off taking it to a pro.
But not all tuners are the same either. Like dyno tuners, some are better than others.
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Originally Posted by Stew_FL
There are so many aspects that go into audio tuning its not funny. The bottom line is if your lazy and want a good tune, hire someone to tune your system. If you want a great tune, learn stuff and and tune the thing yourself. No matter how hard you wish for it, no two people hear the same. So the only way to get the ultimate tune for you, is to do it yourself. The DSP software is free to download. It will not do you any good without the DSP, but, at least you can see whats involved. Learn what each control does. Its trial and error. Move this control. Does it sound better or worse? Move the next one. It's not going to take 5 min. It's going to take hours maybe days.
The more speakers you have the better the sound. Its also going to take you longer to tune. Your ears do not hear the sound from every speaker the same way or at the same time so you have to correct for that. Your rear speakers need to be louder then the fronts at speed because your ears face more forward than backwards. Speakers out of phase cancel each other out. Are your ears inline with the speaker throw pattern or are they off axis? How much wind in your ears? How tall are you? How far forward or back do you sit? What speakers do you have? What amps do you have? And on and on.
Come to think of it, most of you are better off taking it to a pro.
But not all tuners are the same either. Like dyno tuners, some are better than others.
The more speakers you have the better the sound. Its also going to take you longer to tune. Your ears do not hear the sound from every speaker the same way or at the same time so you have to correct for that. Your rear speakers need to be louder then the fronts at speed because your ears face more forward than backwards. Speakers out of phase cancel each other out. Are your ears inline with the speaker throw pattern or are they off axis? How much wind in your ears? How tall are you? How far forward or back do you sit? What speakers do you have? What amps do you have? And on and on.
Come to think of it, most of you are better off taking it to a pro.
But not all tuners are the same either. Like dyno tuners, some are better than others.
Educate urself on the fundamentals of tuning and functionality of the business tool and u will be much better off.
T.
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Yep, just go to the PSM section on the Arc web site and look for software downloads. ( computer only) The DSR-1 uses a smart phone app I believe. Read some reviews on it. Like everything, some people have problems with it.
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This subject gets my blood pressure up.The replies of put the time in study ,learn it on your own is all fine until someone like me and could be only me has put more time in the EQ side of things than one would think possible and have understanding of what when where the thing works.
problem is never played any instriment have zero singing skills so try and create correct sounds is a guess and when guessing on eight speakers with that many frequencies things get wack quick.
Reading thread think even the very most basic install side of Arc is approched differently.I have no preset wire used have tried them all and ended up starting from scratch and others than have used it same with master gain some at ten and have others in way down.there should be way to at least talk about pros and cons of basic functions with out being called a lazy *** or acting like you think your way is better but have not actually put the time in that the guy asking for help has.
Very is to hook up tune and play sound better than it ever did .Very hard to get what wanted out of it which is the very last bit left on the table that makes good be killer.
problem is never played any instriment have zero singing skills so try and create correct sounds is a guess and when guessing on eight speakers with that many frequencies things get wack quick.
Reading thread think even the very most basic install side of Arc is approched differently.I have no preset wire used have tried them all and ended up starting from scratch and others than have used it same with master gain some at ten and have others in way down.there should be way to at least talk about pros and cons of basic functions with out being called a lazy *** or acting like you think your way is better but have not actually put the time in that the guy asking for help has.
Very is to hook up tune and play sound better than it ever did .Very hard to get what wanted out of it which is the very last bit left on the table that makes good be killer.
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ok, miost folks know what an eq device is and does,,,i would that with the eq section, start your tuning by way of subtraction rather than addition, till you get some understanding under your belt there.
set amps to full range response and use the crossovers in the dsp. check the specs on your installed speakers and start with setting up the crossovers a little inside the spec for the speakers so that you don't do any intial damage on power up, then you can fine tune it in after some more experience,,,,keeping in mind that distortion is the speaker killer and you want to try to keep tabs on excursion also.
learn the input mixing strategy that you like and apply.
get a basic idea on how the output levels work and start low, monitoring amp ac power output so that you know how much you are feeding your speaks and keep them intact.
work this in conjunction with your input levels, in order to get the cleannest signal for reproduction, then the best output from your amps.
once all of this is working in your head ok, actually sit on your bike and play your tunes,,,,use the mixing and output level blending so that your hear everything the way you like. then go ride the bike and see what goes away, what doesn't, underwhat conditions while riding, then come back to home base and tweak it, rinse repeat.
m
set amps to full range response and use the crossovers in the dsp. check the specs on your installed speakers and start with setting up the crossovers a little inside the spec for the speakers so that you don't do any intial damage on power up, then you can fine tune it in after some more experience,,,,keeping in mind that distortion is the speaker killer and you want to try to keep tabs on excursion also.
learn the input mixing strategy that you like and apply.
get a basic idea on how the output levels work and start low, monitoring amp ac power output so that you know how much you are feeding your speaks and keep them intact.
work this in conjunction with your input levels, in order to get the cleannest signal for reproduction, then the best output from your amps.
once all of this is working in your head ok, actually sit on your bike and play your tunes,,,,use the mixing and output level blending so that your hear everything the way you like. then go ride the bike and see what goes away, what doesn't, underwhat conditions while riding, then come back to home base and tweak it, rinse repeat.
m