I Love my PSM!!!!!
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From: S. FL
I try to stay out of the pissing matches and weiner wagging, but you sure do sound a little butt hurt. I have always respected and appreciated your input and advice. I believe you have done great things on this forum and I'm sure you do well in your business. I always wish the best for you.
I'm sure I personally wasn't a part of your snied remark, but it was snied, just the same. That type of attitude is not what makes this one of the best forums out there. Maybe I just know so little, it doesn't bothers me to share what I do know. I hope I don't get to the point that I don't want to help others.
I'm also in business for myself. I have lots of competitors in town all vying for work. Some are friends and others just competitors. I give advice (if asked) to all of them, friends and otherwise. If I can further the education of people in my field, it makes for a better business community. If I can educate the cut throats and lowballers, it helps me in the long run. If you notice the car dealers and fast food joints are all clumped together, vying for the same customers. It brings traffic and customers to a central location. They all prosper and survive.
I'm sure I personally wasn't a part of your snied remark, but it was snied, just the same. That type of attitude is not what makes this one of the best forums out there. Maybe I just know so little, it doesn't bothers me to share what I do know. I hope I don't get to the point that I don't want to help others.
I'm also in business for myself. I have lots of competitors in town all vying for work. Some are friends and others just competitors. I give advice (if asked) to all of them, friends and otherwise. If I can further the education of people in my field, it makes for a better business community. If I can educate the cut throats and lowballers, it helps me in the long run. If you notice the car dealers and fast food joints are all clumped together, vying for the same customers. It brings traffic and customers to a central location. They all prosper and survive.
What i dont do is tell folks its not that hard on numerous posts and then provide ZERO advice. Its hard, and the more I learn the more I see how much detail it really takes to get things perfect.
So ask yourself honestly. If there is SUCH a thirst on this site to learn this stuff why is no one offering advice? Fear of being sharp shooted, fear of not sharing secrets, or really not knowing much about this stuff?
Road Captain
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Smithfield, VA
I also wish there was more information shared on DSPs but I totally understand why many dont offer info. There are thousands of people on this form and many that arent willing to put the effort in to learn. They just want to have their hand held and walked thru everything, and nobody has time for that. For the guys that know its easier to warn people off then to lead then down a road they cant follow and have to bail them out.
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Here is a tid bit from both my experience and my reading here. If you have a good quality aftermarket head unit that has lots of adjustments, you might not need to go the dsp route. Hu's that have built in crossover capabilities and multiple eq levels and adjustments already contain a lot of the same features as a dsp, so, you can tune the system through the head unit. Where the dsp shines is when your head unit does not have these functions and you have a lot of speakers and multiple amps in play. You are just making the same adjustments from them good hu, but with the dsp instead. You have to undrestand crossovers, channel and level mixing and channel eq and blending. Combine those with proper amp power distibution to the correct speaks and you will get a system that sounds great. If you already have a grasp on these adjustments from a quality hu, apply the same theory to the dsp tuning and start working with it.
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From: TEXAS
Originally Posted by MMXIWG
It's not that people don't want to put in the effort. We keep getting told repeatedly by people who have experience that's it's not for the feint of heart, but those same people refuse to provide any tips. I personally am tired of hearing how much better my system will sound if I have one and then being told that's only if I know the secret handshake for using it.
I'm more concerned that Haze won't get me a PRV parking lot chair and umbrella!!!!!
T.
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From: Lockport Illinois
I'll bring my own umbrella and beverages
No catering needed here.
48k on a 14 limited non trailer queen here
Road Captain
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From: Smithfield, VA
Thanks marco. Checked a couple of these out and some good info there. Did you have any luck finding videos specific to the PSM? My YouTube and Google searches keep coming up with ARC videos on the PS8 instead of the PSM.
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From: S. FL
i havent seen any vids on the PSM but honestly if you get the concepts you can apply them to any DSP its mostly the interface you have to adjust to. Each DSP has its own quirks youll need to adjust to but essentially the functionality is the same across them.
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Elite HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: S. FL
i havent seen any vids on the PSM but honestly if you get the concepts you can apply them to any DSP its mostly the interface you have to adjust to. Each DSP has its own quirks youll need to adjust to but essentially the functionality is the same across them.
Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2018
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From: Florida
There are so many aspects that go into audio tuning its not funny. The bottom line is if your lazy and want a good tune, hire someone to tune your system. If you want a great tune, learn stuff and and tune the thing yourself. No matter how hard you wish for it, no two people hear the same. So the only way to get the ultimate tune for you, is to do it yourself. The DSP software is free to download. It will not do you any good without the DSP, but, at least you can see whats involved. Learn what each control does. Its trial and error. Move this control. Does it sound better or worse? Move the next one. It's not going to take 5 min. It's going to take hours maybe days.
The more speakers you have the better the sound. Its also going to take you longer to tune. Your ears do not hear the sound from every speaker the same way or at the same time so you have to correct for that. Your rear speakers need to be louder then the fronts at speed because your ears face more forward than backwards. Speakers out of phase cancel each other out. Are your ears inline with the speaker throw pattern or are they off axis? How much wind in your ears? How tall are you? How far forward or back do you sit? What speakers do you have? What amps do you have? And on and on.
Come to think of it, most of you are better off taking it to a pro.
But not all tuners are the same either. Like dyno tuners, some are better than others.
The more speakers you have the better the sound. Its also going to take you longer to tune. Your ears do not hear the sound from every speaker the same way or at the same time so you have to correct for that. Your rear speakers need to be louder then the fronts at speed because your ears face more forward than backwards. Speakers out of phase cancel each other out. Are your ears inline with the speaker throw pattern or are they off axis? How much wind in your ears? How tall are you? How far forward or back do you sit? What speakers do you have? What amps do you have? And on and on.
Come to think of it, most of you are better off taking it to a pro.
But not all tuners are the same either. Like dyno tuners, some are better than others.