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Want to thank everyone for the responses and suggestions/education. I've been away for a bit and back home. I did take the bike on a weekend trip out of town and the sound was clear and loud even at better than highway speeds, turning it all the way up was too loud. On the day back, after a few hours I did start to get some 'clipping' i'll call it, but what I think it was, was the amp getting too hot. It was mid 90's and running hard for several hours, started to cut in and out every few mins for a second...so I turned it down for about 15 minutes and that seemed to let it cool enough and didn't have the issue anymore for the remainder.
Really do not even need the fade function, and don't really want to start adding more 'things' in the audio stream. I'll likely just keep what I have for now, even though that fade function that appears bugs the crap out of me that it doesn't function with my current flash. Need to 'Ultra flash' 4 speaker 0 amp or just go without...If I get some free time (full afternoon) to drive across town again I may do it. Thank you
Fastdog, in one of my recent posts I put up some pics of a level control I added behind the switch cover to control the level of one set of speakers. That sort of gave me the "third" adjustment added to the front and rear.
They also make the same type of control that is a fader. It has one set of RCA inputs and two sets of outputs. That would give fade functionality even though it wouldn't be right at your thumb. Sometimes depending on the type of music or weather or especially a change from one helmet to another I like the ability to tweak it on the fly.
It ain't like the factory thumb adjustment but it does exactly the same thing. I figure we chop these bikes all to pieces to get this stuff in there I don't mind an extra **** here and there if it gets me the sound I want.
Want to provide an update: I was able to get the fade control working correctly when I got around to having my system reflashed. This meant not using the flash that Rockford suggested, but utilizing the flash setup that JM states to utilize below.
A benefit, to my untrained ear, my sound is now better, with more clarity and bass than before - and all of the Boom OEM sound control options work as intended to satisfy my OCD nature. Rockford actually stated to me this could not be done as I had wanted it to be....they were wrong. JM was right.
Quoting from JMJOHN from a previous thread...
Originally Posted by JMJOHN
Best radio FLASH for your system is "4-speakers, upper-fairing, rear-pods, no-amp" THEN on the second menu page, ENABLE or say YES to Amps 1 and 2. The HARLEY dealer CANNOT do the second menu page part of the flash.
However, MANY aftermarket dealers across the country CAN & are using the Techno-Research or Diag-4-bike digital technicians, and the COMPLETE flash can be properly performed with either of those.
This video will also help explain the Harley radio flash ordeal and it is applicable for 2014-2018 Harley infotainment systems https://youtu.be/vVZL1kLzce8
Not sure if this has been said or if I missed it. I have the RF flash and I have no fade (not even the option). If it shows the option, the only thing besides the wrong flash is if you have both front and rear inputs connected to the amp. If you only have the front inputs connected, it wont fade.
Want to provide an update: I was able to get the fade control working correctly when I got around to having my system reflashed. This meant not using the flash that Rockford suggested, but utilizing the flash setup that JM states to utilize below.
A benefit, to my untrained ear, my sound is now better, with more clarity and bass than before - and all of the Boom OEM sound control options work as intended to satisfy my OCD nature. Rockford actually stated to me this could not be done as I had wanted it to be....they were wrong. JM was right.
I think I'm in the same boat with my buddys Ultra CVO, I see the fader but it doesn't move, I was hoping because its an ultra, it had the right flash, does not appear that way, it came stock with TP and fairing speakers, he has the TP but now I'm thinking there is an amp in there too? were going with lid speakers.
OH and where did you get the flash done? i'm hearing the dealers wont do it anymore?
Last edited by mikes300; Feb 27, 2019 at 09:40 AM.
That is some good info Fastdog. How are you connecting the head unit to your amps now? Are you using straight RCAs without line levelers?
Hoyt,
I am connecting my HD Boom head unit to a single Rockford Amp in the front fairing that came with the Rockford Fosgate system(s). That single amp powers the front two and rear two speakers. I am not using RCA connections or line levelers.
Rockford Front Kit: hd14-tkit
Rockford Rear Lid Kit: tms69bl14
The rear speakers are a seperate kit that is plug and play also. This rear kit install does require removal of the tank, seat, movement of under-seat battery area stuff, and drill and cutting on saddlebags. This was my first time, I did it all myself. The worst part was vacuuming up the particle mess from cutting the saddle bag lids.
Originally Posted by firemedic4500
Not sure if this has been said or if I missed it. I have the RF flash and I have no fade (not even the option). If it shows the option, the only thing besides the wrong flash is if you have both front and rear inputs connected to the amp. If you only have the front inputs connected, it wont fade.
Firemedic,
Thank you, valid point to keep in mind. Even with a correct flash, for front/rear fade to work, you need to have the amp connected with front/rear. I will attempt to post photos of my connection setup.
-Fastdog
Photos: Left side Amp - Rockford Fosgate TM400X4ad 2018 Street Glide RF TM400 Amp Right side Amp - Rockford Fosgate TM400X4ad
Thanks for those pics Fastdog. I don't have any experience with the Rushmore units but my neighbor has one so I like to learn about them when I can.
Seeing as how the amp is a TM400x4ad I'm wondering how strong the audio signal coming out of the head unit is with this flash. That amp seems to be set up for speaker level outputs more or less. I have one on a preamp output and had to boost the signal to it to get proper volume out of it. Rockford lists an input sensitivity voltage of 12v. Most head units seem to be around 4 or 5.
Thanks again for posting this info. I really dig it when folks figure out new ways of doing things. In my line of work I have to examine tons of details on each job so I appreciate folks that spend extra time making sure things are just right.
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